"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On 29 Jan 2004 21:34:16 GMT, "Harry Lavo" wrote:

"chung" wrote in message
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So, who are the DVD-A advocates that claim SACD sounds soft? On the
other hand, SACD advocates such as yourself keep claiming that PCM
sounds irritating, gritty, etc., when all evidence points to hi-rez PCM
as being the more accurate process.

No, *some* technical data supports DVD-A as having cleaner ultrasonics.
You
are ignoring needed user-end DAC quality, the analog output quality of
the
companies promoting DVD-A, the fact that in practice DVD-A disks have no
greater quieting throughout the bass and mid-range region than ordinary
cd's, etc.

Harry, please get real here. *All* available evidence states quite
clearly that 24/192 or 24/96 DVD-A is *vastly* superior to SACD in
regard to cleaner ultrasonics. BTW, SACD has *no* real-world SNR
advantage through the bass and midrange region, because 24/96 greatly
exceeds the capacity of any available microphone.


Wrong, Stewart. Just look at the comparison graphs in Stereophile for SACD
and DVD-A players.

The issue is not clear-cut,

Oh yes, it is.


Oh no its not. In practical terms, DVD-A has cleaner ultrasonics and SACD
has less noise in the bass and mid-range.

but in either case the systems are superior to
cd, both technically and from a subjective sound standpoint.

No, they are *technically* superior, but there is as yet absolutely
*zero* reliable and repeatable evidence that well-made CD is in any
way *audibly* different from well-made SACD or 24/192 DVD-A.


So fine, go do and publish a test showing that. Until then, we will live
with our tests, which were as carefully done as your own Stewart and over a
wider range of material. What do you not understand about the word
"subjective", Stewart?

However,
high-res PCM continues basically to be described as CD-quality with
smoother
highs; SACD is described as "softer" and "more natural" and having more
depth; whether or not you view this as a good thing or not depends in
part
on where you are coming from with your musical reference point. It seems
most classical music lovers prefer SACD as sounding more natural. That
includes me.

As regards my own circle of audiophile friends, this is absolutely
untrue. Indeed, there's no clear vote for *either* 'hi-res' format
over top-quality CD such as JVCs excellent XRCD series.

Good for you. Don't suppose you have any influence over that circle of
friends, do you?