On Mon, 05 Dec 2005 23:09:54 +0000, Goofball_star_dot_etal
wrote:

On 5 Dec 2005 15:06:08 -0800, "Bret Ludwig"
wrote:


Robert Morein wrote:
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Interesting that such a simple methodology is unchallengable.

I conclude that the argument has been settled in favor of idler drive
turntables.

The Garrard tables as well as the Russcos and other DJ battleaxes of
old were idler drive, and worked pretty well until the rubber parts got
flat-spotted. Correctly set up with new rubber they are charming
antiques and work halfway decently, but no one in their right mind

You're getting warm now.

would take a Garrard over a LP12 for sound quality.


depends on the linn...they vary....

at their best the Linn wins, but the garrard is a more consistent
performer..the garrard generally has lower bass but what is there
lacks definition..i.e. it's muddy....
a decent vpi belt drive blows the garrard away every time.

I've owned all three and done numerous a/b's with the same arm and
cartridge over a 6 month period.

The garrard was good when you get it for a bargain , add a nice bass
to it and arm and cartridge, but all the talk of stuff like that has
pushed the general cost of one to unrealistic levels in price.