[Arny Krueger]

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message
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On Mar 18, 1:11 pm, "Arny Krueger"
wrote:

"Mike Rivers" wrote in message

One of the solutions is to simply get rid of the bass
fed to the monitors, that's throwing off your
perception of the mix and leave correcting the
"unknown" low end to the mastering engineer.

That amounts to equalization.

OK, you're stating a fact, but I wonder if you mean it in
the sense that it's a bad thing, something to be avoided.

Not at all. I'm as critical as anybody of the idea of equalizing out the
nulls and peaks that are always there below 200 Hz. My point is that in
certain applications, broadband equalization which is what this roll-off is,
can make some sense. It still might not be the best solution, but it might
be the most practical solution.

It probably can be avoided (at least as a gross solution)
if the room is properly built, but in this particular
case, it sounds like that isn't going to happen.

Also, there's this problem of matching of woofers and rooms.

Ben has
already "treated" his room, he doesn't trust his
monitors, and he doesn't seem to be ready to call in
someone who can properly analyze his problem and suggest
a practical solution.

Some broadband eq in the LF range may help.

We're just guessing here,

Totally agreed!

But I strongly suspect that not using bass traps could easily be a move in
the wrong direction.

suggesting things that have worked in other rooms, but as
you know, every room is unique. And while there are a
number of products on the market designed to improve any
room, apparently the choice (or quantity) isn't right for
this room.

Agreed.