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Trevor Wilson wrote:

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Trevor wrote to Atec:

* Your admission that you lied, is duly noted.
* Instead of presenting actual facts, you resort to rancour.
* Your inability to discuss anything logically and coherently is duly
noted.


Trevor instead of all this "duly noting" you could serve
mankind better by writing these ME manuals for
which the world clamours :-)

Iain

Wouldn't it then be like "open source code" for software applications?
Everyone could then see how they work, propose modifications, upgrades,
tweaks etc and then there would be *free* product development.

I would see it as win/win situation for customers and manufacturer alike.
I would envisage that PS and TW would actually get busier and make more
money because of it.

Imagine how many idiots would start tinkering and let the smoke out of the
box or buy relics off fleabay in the hope of repairing them themselves?

All this "Secret Squirrel" **** is a PITA IMHO. Please keep the cloak and
dagger stuff for mystery novels? ;-)

And from a purely selfish POV a very good product is going to end up
devaluing because no one will want it anymore :-(

Also *IF* the manuals were available surely State (or OS) repairers could
be appointed and even, heavens forbid, actually create demand for new
product and a new manufacturing facility could eventuate.


**Let me re-state the situation:

* Peter Stein is supporting and servicing products he manufactured. I am
servicing and supporting ME and other products.


Neither Peter Stein or yourself are providing adequate support at all.

If you were, there'd be an avaiable service manual for all models.

Don't ****en lie Trevor.

Shut the **** up, and only talk to Peter Stein, and tell him, don't
****en ask him,
that sevice manuals must be prepared within a month.


* There are others who service and support ME products. Due to the careful
matching of semiconductors in all ME products, servicing the output stages
by anyone other than PS (or his appointed successor/s) is a real bad idea.
* Supplying schematics to anyone calling themselves a 'tech', in the case of
ME, may be a very bad idea. Techs who are unable to perform even basic
fault-finding, can end up doing far more damage to the amplifier.


The ME website does not list the available knowledgeable service techs
around Oz or elsewhere.

THERE ARE NO MANUALS, so all techs are effectively mushroom cowboys,
kept in the ****en dark, and fed on bull****!!!!!.

* In the case of most ME models, the output stages are modular in format.
This makes removal and replacement a quick, simple exercise. Peter Stein
(and his appointed successors) can effect service to those output modules
and the modules posted back, safely, inexpensively and easily. Freighting
amplifiers around the nation is not required. All that is required, is a
competent tech.


A tech IS ALWAYS required to remove modules and arrange transport for
them.
But its double handling, and bloody inefficient.

Since Stein can service the modules so easily, then it should be easy
for anyone else to do the same thing according to
the information in the manuals.

But there are no manuals, and people have to go back to Stein for the
expensive fix.

Readers, please DO NOT BUY ME amplifiers.

ME does not allow anyone to be independant of the maker if the amp
fails.


* I have seen many ME amplifiers which have been worked on by incompetent
techs. The result is not pretty, nor cheap to rectify.


Indeed you'd have seen this, and its all BECAUSE THERE ARE NO
MANUALS!!!!!

How can a tech be competent if there is no schematic of explanatory
notes are available?


* Poorly serviced ME amplifiers reflect badly on the product's reputation.


THEN PROVIDE MANUALS, AND THE PROBLEM WON'T OCCUR.

WHAT YOU ARE DOING WILSON, IS TO PROVE WHAT AN OBSTINATE **** YOU ARE.

YOUR WHOLE ATTITUDE IS WRONG, WRONG, AND WRONG.


Trevor Wilson