[ST[_2_]]

On Saturday, January 4, 2014 11:14:59 PM UTC+8, Oregonian Haruspex wrote:
On 2013-12-29 19:19:45 +0000, ST said:
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That sounds highly dubious at best. One way to tell for sure is to=20
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acquire a recent high-grade recording that has been printed to a CD and=
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pressed to vinyl in the same form, mic up your listening room with some=
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lab-grade mics, and play each of them over the same system. I but you=20
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can predict the outcome quite accurately.

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That is the kind of evidence I am looking for. Technically, is it possible =
to press exact replica of CD version on vinyl?=20


On Wednesday, January 1, 2014 4:58:25 AM UTC+8, Ed Presson wrote:




This view seems to ignore that the wavy, wobbly, and jittery signal that

arrives the ear from the vinyl will be subject to further wavy, wobbly, =
and

jittery distortion once it leaves the speaker resulting in even more

distortion. Somehow, I doubt that results in a closer representation of

live sound. Perhaps I've misunderstood the OP.



Ed Presson

Yes, the loudspeakers contribute a fair share of distortion but what matte=
rs here is how much of the sound wave is closer to the live performance whe=
n reaching the ears. Too much distortion in vinyl degrades the sound, but h=
ere I am referring to the correct balance. I do agree some digital recordin=
gs are very good. In most cases, I can't make out whether it is vinyl or di=
gital. I do not play vinyl but AB'ing the very best of both formats, I find=
vinyl is musically more pleasant.

I started this thread because all the discussions about vinyl and digital =
is based on the ability of each medium to capture and replay the signal as =
close to the original sound recorded at source but not the actual signal qu=
ality heard which is wobbling and jittery when reaching our ears.

At close range, microphones capture a fraction of the total sound. In live=
music, a bigger slice of the sound of instruments reaches our ears, althou=
gh there too only a fraction of the entire sound reaches the ears, but the =
mix is entirely different compared to what's heard at close range. The di=
fference here is the whole sound loses it original wave shape by interactin=
g with other factors creating it own cocktail of coloration when it arrives=
at our ears.

Maybe, vinyl with his own distortion makes the sound natural when it arriv=
es to our ears. So far, I have not seen actual measurement of live vs digit=
al vs vinyl measured at the ear level which hopefully provides a better und=
erstanding about the real sound quality that matters to us for musical enjo=
yment (not accuracy).