"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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On 3 Jul 2005 17:43:08 GMT, "Mike Gilmour"
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"Stewart Pinkerton" wrote in message
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I can often hear tape hiss in quiet passages, and particularly if it's
faded out between tracks, but it's generally *below* the surface
noise. As you'd expect.

I find the opposite that tape hiss is considerably above that of the
records
surface noise, fade out between tracks is very clearly heard.

Given that surface noise is *never* more than 75dB below peak cutting
level, even on ridiculously 'hot' cuts, that suggests that you listen
to pretty noisy masters! :-)


Measurements on
http://www.audioholics.com/techtips/...CDformats2.php
range from -84dB around 1kHz to -96dB around 10 Khz for a mass produced LP
bought at a 'thrift' store for 1$,
you'll see the measurements of quality MSFL vinyl are considerably better,
as expected.


combination of stylus profile, cartridge quality, machine cleaned vinyl
and
high-end phono stage.

None of this can overcome the basic level of surface roughness
exhibited by even the very best 'virgin' vinyl. This is not a matter
of opinion - it's readily measurable.


It would be helpful if you actually managed to substantiate claims via your
own or others research rather than making broad sweeping statements.



I do have valve hiss but this is barely discernable
by ear due selected low noise signal valves.
I'm really surprised that you find the reverse to be true.

I'm really surprised that you seem to have no well-recorded LPs....

That statement is groundless as I have collected quality recordings for over
40 years owning a large collection of well recorded LP's including many
Mercurys and UHQR's. I suggest you research verifiable measurements
relative to high end vinyl systems before making such extraordinary
statemernts.

Mike
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