"Pooh Bear" wrote in message
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"Norman M. Schwartz" wrote:

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Mike Prager wrote:
Perhaps it's time for the group to split into two:
rec.audio.high-end and rec.audio.high-end.haters.

Why? Because the guy asked how much jitter it takes to be audible, that
makes him a hater of high-end audio? Do "high-end lovers" think that
question is unimportant or irrelevant? Do you?

It's going to take a lot (whatever the electro-physico explanations). In
the
early days of CD, when there were only 1 box units available to play
discs,
golden eared high enders were endorsing 2 boxes; drives and D/A
converters
to get superior sound. Isn't that where jitter entered the picture? One
box
delivered better (jitter free) sound.

By basic principles ( lack of need for a clock recovery circuit ) the
potential
for a 1 box solution to be superior in respect of jitter is indeed true.

Just depends how clean your system clock is.

OK, and my point was/is that the listener who wanted the best and latest
equipment for listening to CD was told (by insiders having good and trained
ears) to go out and replace their adequate single boxes with two boxes with
added jitter. So therefore "jitter" in *practicality* was/is a red herring,
and that they didn't hear the deleterious effect of jitter. Do you think
anyone can suffer by the presence of jitter today (please no DBTs )?