Of $90,000 turntables, Stradivarius violins, red wine, and blindfolds
On Monday, April 21, 2014 4:02:48 PM UTC-7, KH wrote:
On 4/20/2014 6:30 AM, Scott wrote:
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On Saturday, April 19, 2014 7:56:51 PM UTC-7, KH wrote:
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On 4/19/2014 6:20 AM, Scott wrote:
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On Wednesday, April 16, 2014 10:39:04 AM UTC-7, news wrote:
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The subjectivist audio press comes out with endless prose and poetry=
about
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what they hear in the latest products, but it is totally meaningless=
if it
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is done under sighted conditions.
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No, it is not "totally" meaningless. yes it is flavored with sighted =
bias. But honestly so are your personal perceptions of your own stereo. Doe=
s that make your perceptions meaningless? You have talked about those perce=
ptions at length and have come up with some very unconventional beliefs on =
stereo playback based on those perceptions.
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Not "totally", no, just meaningless if *audible* differences are your
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only interest. I don't doubt that many, if not all, of us have used ma=
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different factors in selecting our gear, including it's looks. But I
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don't need a reviewer to wax poetic about how the gear looks, I need
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only see a picture for that. I can research the manufacturer, and
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obviously I can see the price, so the sound is really the only other
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criterion of interest, and a subjective, sighted-only review won't
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reliably provide that information. So..."essentially meaningless".
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That's just wrong. The actual sound of the gear is an actual factor in =
a person's perceptions of what they hear. Even under sited conditions. Ther=
e is this thing called gray between the black and the white.
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No, you're conflating "perception", inclusive of bias, with *audible*.=20
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If you put the same component in two different boxes, one may well be=20
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preferred over the other, sighted, but it will have zero to do with=20
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*audibility*.
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I am not conflating anything. If you put two different components that are =
known to sound different in those same boxes the sound difference will also=
affect preference. Once again you gravitate towards the black and white an=
d ignore the gray in between. We actually do hear things under sighted cond=
itions and what we actually hear also affects what we think we hear. Bias h=
ardly makes up 100% of our perceptions.=20
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