[Peter Larsen[_3_]]

"Frank Stearns" skrev i en meddelelse
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PStamler writes:

On Sunday, April 26, 2015 at 12:11:29 AM UTC-6, Don Pearce wrote:

No. It is just a general problem that when adding reverb we tend to
lose track of how much we have used during the stress of a session.
Listening back a few days later it is quite usual to hear that it is
in fact overdone, and it needs to be backed off a bit. My advice is
just a time-saver.

I've told my students for years that the Iron Law of Reverb is to turn it
up until
it sounds right...then turn it down 6dB.

The thing is, your ears acclimate to a level of reverb and don't hear it
any
more...so you need to add more in order to hear it. Then, as Don notes,
you come
back a couple of days later and it sounds like it was recorded in a cave.

I always print a mix with the reverb turned down 6dB from what sounds
right, and
another mix with it turned down 6 *more* dB. About half the time, the
latter mix is
what I wind up liking in the long run.

Yes, just added verb to a concert band in too dry a room, turned it up to
actually audible in the mix and then down so that it only barely was.
Listening to the tails afterwards it is almost too much. Yes, it was a
2-track. Yes mix, because doing it as a mix and exporting the mixdown allows
one stage processing in post for cleanest sound.

It's startling to me that even with "reverb fatigue" one could
make a mix error on the order of magnitude of even 3 dB, let alone
6 or 12. (In the classical and acoustic music work I do, a reverb
change of even 1 dB can be quite significant.)

Yes, and first we need to talk pre-delay. The most frequent error is too
little predelay and adding verb in ketchup amounts to make the room appear
larger because that most often is what one needs. The catch is that adding
predelay is what makes the room appear larger, not adding more reverb, it
just blurs.

Applies to all genres and scenarios.

Kind regards

Peter Larsen

I don't doubt the experience and observations, but I'm curious with two
general
questions:

1. What music genres are we talking about where this rule seems to apply
more often
than not?

2. Can you give some background on the reverbs used: general type, basic
parameters
(such as decay time, predelay, EQ, and so on)

Thanks,
Frank
Mobile Audio

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