lcw999 wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 20:36:01 +0000, Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On Sat, 27 Mar 2004 03:29:13 GMT, lcw999 wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2004 22:50:49 +0000, Dick Pierce wrote:
You brought up the point of "particle interactions" and some such,
without ever once, apparently, listening to those experts in that
field
who will tell you that the rules at that level are irrelevant in the
macro world.

Sorry, but I have discussed this with individuals in this realm.
Perhaps you meant "micro"...but, there is not enough knowledge
available at this early state to know what can be related to
any of
these sub-particle dimensions. The reason for the comments about
particle issues was to merely wake up those that think that our
awareness of current "seemingly known" issues is most likely
tied in
with other levels of particles... therefore...we will learn
much in
the future about what is now referred to as a "stable, all is
known"
category. Don't get upset here...we are still stumbling through
the
basics...more will evolve. Don't be surprized that we might well
learn to manipulate certain particles in this sub-particle
domain.
However, you failed to note that all this handwaving is totally
irrelevant to audio. Why? Because *before* you start investigating a
cause, you need to demonstrate the existence of an effect. This, you
have signally failed to do. Cold fusion, anyone?
Whoa..again!! This whole verbal process was stated in such a
manner to make the point that perhaps we should be a
bit wary of "..having all the answers"...this early in the game.
We do not yet have such fundamental factors about what
makes things tick yet...new breakthroughs come daily.


Objectivist: Elephants do not fly. Can you give any evidence that they
do?

Some Subjectivist: Whoa! Particle Physics tells us there are a lot of
things we don't yet understand, at the particle level. We simply cannot
trust our eyes at this time to tell us whether elephants fly. We don't
have the advanced tools to detect flying elephants. I'm sure some day
in the future, we will have the basic understanding and the tools to
appreciate how elephants can fly. And we cannot dismiss anecdotes of
people seeing flying elephants; that will be the easy way out.