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Mkuller
 
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Default THE ENDLESS DBT DEBATE

Steven Sullivan wrote
I've noticed on RAHE that no matter how many times 'objectivists' propound
their views with the proper qualifications -- e.g. the words
"nominally competent", "likely", "gross differences', etc -- and
it has now been dozens, if not hundreds of times, since I've been
reading the newsgroup -- certain 'subjectivists' simply fail to register
them.

Hence the canard emitted perennially from the
'subjectivist' side that 'objectivists' think 'all amps/cables/CD players
sound the same'.



mkuller wrote:
Even jj said some cables are designed as tone controls, i.e. they sound
different, and we've recently read here the report from the Swedish audio

group
which proved CD players can sound different. So in your 'objectivist' view
which components sound different from each other? Amps that aren't

'nominally
competent' (if they sound different, they must be 'nominally incompetent')?
Preamps? Speakers?


Steven Sullivan :
Cables designed to be tone controls are not cables designed to pass a signal
with minimal distortion, which is what nominally competent cables are
designed to do.


Since there is no label on these amplifiers or cables that says "nominally
competent", this statement (of Pinkerton's which you repeat) is meaningless to
the average audiophile. And I believe Nousaine disagrees about amplifier sound
which makes your claim even more meaningless. So either "all amps sound the
same" or they don't. You can't have it both ways.

Nice sidestep Steven - you didn't answer the question I asked about which
components are "likely" to sound different.
Regards,
Mike