Jenn wrote:

Interesting. I see it more this way:
Subjectivist: On a certain recording through various audio systems, the
trumpets sound nothing like trumpets I've ever heard live.

No objectivist would ever quarrel with a statement like this.

If the statement were "The trumpets sound more real on this CD player
than that one," however, we might question whether you can really
distinguish between the two. But that is an entirely different
proposition.

Objectivist: There is no indication from my measuring devices that
indicate that those trumpets sound less like real trumpets, therefore
there is no proof of your statement, therefore your statement is false.

Nor would an objectivist ever say this. We don't have measurements that
can tell us that something *sounds* more or less real.

We do have measurements that allow us to predict whether you could
really distinguish between two CD players, however. And that would tell
us whether the observation that "The trumpets sound more real on this
CD player than that one" was based on the actual physical sound or some
other factor.

That is part of what makes audio objectivism scientific--the ability to
make testable hypotheses by correlating measurements with perceptions.
Subjectivists have no theory from which to derive testable hypotheses.

bob