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Well, this is where we will never agree, of course, but I don't feel a
need to *prove* these claims.


I truly appreciate the essential honesty of this statement. Maybe
it's time for all the subjectivists out there to just admit that: 1)
they can't prove that their beliefs are true; and 2) they don't
care that they can't prove that their beliefs are true. They just
believe them.

Once you're past that, you can start all the threads you want talking
about what amps and cables sound like to you, and which ones you bought
and why. Chung, Stewart, Sully and I will leave you alone. Just leave
out the part where you try to explain WHY things sound the way they
sound to you. If you don't want to do science, stop playing at it.


You obviously don't get it. We are not 'doing science', but chosing
(and evaluating) equipment. That is not to say that we believe that
what we hear is imaginary. In other words, we don't think that what we
claim VIOLATES any scientific principles or even the principle of
parsimony. We believe that there are differences in the products
themselves, however subtle they may be. Speaking for myself, I don't
care what causes those differences, but so long as they correlate with
the presence of the product in my system, my money is bet on the
difference being located in the product. (If we were 'doing science',
we would be involved in that investigation. But we're not 'doing
science'.)

It strains anyone's credulity to believe that my brain can create,
flawlessly and conistently, a whole panorama of sonic differences among
seven amplifiers. To insist that these things are 'all in my head' is
therefore to be dismissed without even the merest consideration. It's
absurd. You don't have a detailed case for 'all in my head' and you
know it.


bob