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Default Stereophile, don't worry

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Tixe wrote:

On 1 Jun 2013 14:53:49 GMT, in article ,
stated:

It is still doing its same thing. Here a bit from the current online
mag:

Rune Skov shows off the new Nordost Valhalla 2 interconnect ($9799/2m
pair) next to his sweet Nordost tattoo.

On Tuesday May 28th, 2013, Nordost premiered the Valhalla 2 cable
lineup at Lyric Hi-Fi in New York City. Rune Skov, International
Product Training & Sales Support Manager for Nordost, gave a
demonstration to a garrulous group of audiophiles who joyfully
suggested what differences they heard as Skov switched out each old
Valhalla cable for the new one.

Wow, what a scientific approach. Just as the editor some years ago
demonstrated in his "debate" about objective testing, if one puts oneself
into a context known to produce false subjective results; one will get
self
same subjective results.

I think you're being a bit mean to Stereophile. Of course I admit
that there is some woo-woo stuff like this, but a lot of it isn't, and
there doesn't seem to be a strong party line one way or the other.
Some of their writers spend hours comparing cables, some don't.


The doctrine of the validity of the subjective listening experience
permeates all editoral policy. The only "party line" I have ever seen is
exactly that. The excesses in the religion of wire is but a product of
same.



Your general point is well-taken. The current editorial staff of Stereophile
has
not merely found objective testing unnecessary, but has gone out of its way
to
denigrate it. And the basic argument has been, once you cut through the
thicket
of words, is: "objective testing methods are invalid because they say that
components that sound different to me sound the same."

(Disclosu I let my subscription to Stereophile lapse a long time ago based
on
dissatisfaction with their product, but their objection to objective
listening
tests was not the main reason).

Having said that, if someone wants to spend $10,000 on some speaker wire, let
them. Nordost is not acting fraudulently. Whoever the buyer is feels better
owning that wire, and having the purchase and service experience that goes
with
it, than having an incremental $10,000 in the bank or having other things
that
cost that much. None of us is in a position to say that that preference is
invalid.

Oh, and to anyone who thinks that it is "wasteful to society" for that much
money to be spent on speaker wire, you might benefit from taking an economics
course. (Or, given the state of higher education today, you very well might
not).


My beef is not with Nordost selling 12 ft of wire and 4 phono plugs for
$10,000, nor is it with the rich fools who fall for the Nordost scam. It
was with the OP who said that the demonstration report was an example of
Stereophile's flawed editorial policy. I say again, that piece has NO
editorial content. The reporter merely described the event and the
product, and said that the enthusiastic audiophile audience happily gave
their opinions. Unless there was more to the report than the OP posted,
the reporter gave no opinion about the cables' performance.

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