Stewart:

Even I am not so naive as to imagine that cables that are electrically
identical in all ways will not sound the same. They will. he trouble is
that we may not be able to measure all of the electrical values. I
presume that some small electrical differences exist between the $100
Monster interconnect cables and the $50 Monster interconnect cables.

It could be something as simple as better connections......

I don't know, or care to know, what those differences are, or whether
you can measure them...all I know is that I can HEAR them...

Stewart Pinkerton wrote:
On 27 Sep 2005 02:10:22 GMT, wrote:

wrote:
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Stewart Pinkerton wrote:

After all, we can't *prove* that
aliens don't exist, can we?

But there is no good reason to suppose they do. That is not the case
with audio products.

Yes it is. Every audible difference must have a physical cause, and
there is no known (or even seriously hypothesized) physical cause for
an audible difference between two wires with similar electrical
characteristics.

Who says they have 'similar electrical characteristics'? I presume they
certainly do not.

You presume without knowledge. Aside from resistance, which is purely
a function of wire gauge, there's not much variation in electrical
paremeters, despite what slick salesmen like George Cardas will try to
tell you. The extreme ends of the reactance scale are represented by
Kimber 8TC and Alpha-Core 'Goertz' MI at the low-inductance end, and
Naim NACA5 at the high-inductance end.

I've compared ten-foot lengths of the Kimber and Naim cables into a 3
ohm load, and there's less than 1dB difference at 20kHz, and of course
less as frequency reduces. Since this is significantly less than the
variation common between two tweeters in the same pair of speakers, I
doubt that it's audible.

Note that the standard entry criterion for a DBT comparison is a
requirement of matching to less than 0.2dB at 10kHz, which would mean
that the cables actually do have pretty similar basic LCR electrical
characteristics. If someone wants to bring a ludicrously extreme cable
to the party, I can simulate any 'audiophile' cable, including the
$1,000 a foot guys, for less than a buck a foot.

Just because you don't know the science doesn't mean
the science doesn't exist.

There are many people who can hear differences
between products. I am one of them.

No, you just one of those who still THINKS he can, because he's never
made a comparison that follows standard scientific research practice.
Just because you don't know the science doesn't mean the science
doesn't exist.

Quite so.
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Stewart Pinkerton | Music is Art - Audio is Engineering