[Dick Pierce[_2_]]

Gary Eickmeier wrote:
KH wrote:

On 4/26/2013 7:06 PM, Gary Eickmeier wrote:



There is no HRTF or head shadowing in a
recording. It just can't work.

There is in binaural, which you never cease to conflate with stereo in
these discussions. But yes, you're correct; there isn't any HRTF in
stereo recording - and no one has ever even suggested such.


Dick Pierce said in his response on 4/4/2013 at 7:27PM to AE's previous
thread:

"The fact is that the HRTF of the original sound field is
eliminate from the listening chain is precisely the problem."

Which, of course and as usual, you completely utterly
misunderstood. I would please implore you once again to
not assume that when you are confused, you immediately
assume that it's because the other person is confused.

The HRTF (do you even know what that means?) is eliminated
for a variety of reasons. Most especially in the confused
and inconsistent misrepresentations you've proferred, since
the soundfields presented by the instrument and ANY
recreation of the soundfields by ANY existing stereo
recording and playback technique are VASTLY different
(despite your unsupported claims about what your 901-
based speaker system is capable of doing), the HRTF-
processed result of that original soundfiels and that
of the reproduced soundfield must, be necessitty, be
vastly different. The fact that it work at all, as stated
by Audio_Empire and many others, is far more a testimony
to the flexibility and adaptability of the human auditory
system in being able to synthesize the resultant emotive
results, than it is to any alledged physical or technical
properties.

And you are clearly incorrect in that concept as presented. There is
no HRTF in the recording, true. But the listener, wherever he may
be, or whatever type of system he is listening to, will perceive the
sound as filtered through his HRTF, as you later state clearly
yourself.

Good. You got that. But then why are you harrassing me about it right now?
In a field-type system, which has nothing to do with the number of ears,
head shadowing, HRTF, or anything about the human hearing mechanism,
everyone who hears the music hears it the same way he hears live music. We
are reproducing the object itself, not signals for any particular being's
ears, so we do NOT have to worry about anything that has to do with how we
hear. I have noted the summing localization which happily lets us get away
with fewer channels, but that is heard in the same way by everyone as well,
and does not need to be encoded into the signals in any way beyond normal
stereo recording techniques.

Mr. Pierce was also very confused

No, once again, Mr. Eickmeier is confused about what
Mr. Pierce said. Please stop blaming him for your confusion.

with some
thinking that what is wrong with stereo is we need crosstalk
cancellation, or we need to record the HRTF, or head shadowing,

Again, who? I've not seen any evidence of that here.

Pierce. And many of your statements, as above.

No. Mr. Eickmeier, Pierce did not say anything like the
confused statements you have represented.

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