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It is all relativistic mumno-jumbo, from Einstein's
train experiment to the speaker diaphrams. The brain
has nothing to do with light or sound. It's
the geometric relationship bewteen eye sockets,
ear sockets, and wind that create the sound.

It was Doppler's train experiment, not Einstein's.


I think you talking about music though, not sound though.
The "speed" of sound, and the Doppler Shift only exist
in the context of music, where the medium is
locally linear. Most mediums, including the
Earth's crust, the Ocean Bottom, clouds, and the sun's
photosphere don't have a fixed speed of sound.
So the "wavelength" in those media doesn't
really exist in the Classical Fourier sense. Which
is why you need complex frequencies in those cases.
And the imaginary part of the frequency
is going to be traveling through a different state of matter
than the real part of the frequency.
And it's going to travel infinitely faster
than the real part. Which is where matrix mechanics
and the Uncertainty Prinicple came from.


The Heisenberg uncertainty principle pertains to subatomic particle physics.
It has nothing to do with sound.


And what the wavelength is in a matrix,
nobody knows.


Again, nothing to do with the real world.

And Einstein was right about the measuring sticks.
They're only useful where you have a source and receiver.
But the Mercury Perehelion measurement doesn't
have a source receiver mode.

The Mercury Perehelion measurement has nothing to do with audio either.

The only way to even derive the GTR mass Equivalency
Principle is just the way he did it, with the
Elevator experiment, where there are no
Doppler Shifts.

Again, nothing to do wuith audio.

And because sound is slow, doesn't mean acoustic
waves are slow. The acoustic pressure waves
from solar flares, Nuclear Reactor Cores, and
Hydrogen bombs are too fast for even the
fastest acoustician to keep up with.
Which is why both Digital Sound, TV, and Electric
Guitars and Laser Pickups work so much
better than "acoustics".

Acoustic pressure waves have nothing to do with digital sound, TV, electric
guitars (the pickups work with magnetic induction, not acoustic pressure) or
laser pickups.

And the receiver will hear the source sound,
after loud after he breaks the speed of sound.
Since the pressure wave is going to reflect
off the upper atmosophere and be heard
as a constant rumble, until he comes
back below the speed of sound. But what he
hears won't intelligible to him, because
all the source frequency are nonlinearly
shifted. But you can unshift them, in
many sitution, which is the main reason
that Stealth Aircraft work.

The reasons stealth aircraft work have nothing to do with the speed of
sound. There are both subsonic and supersonic stealth aircraft, and the term
"stealth" when used with them primarily has to do with very small radar and
thermal footprints.
I took alt.sci.physics out of this, because for the purpose of this
discussion, we aren't concerned with the speed of sound in the sun's
photosphere, the ocean's botton, etc. Talk about your "mumbo jumbo", this
post is so far out in left field as to have no relevance whatever.



In Einstein's theory we can never move faster than the speed of light.
It's
a whole different ball game.

That's hardly true. The only reason refraction of light
through a telescope even works at all is because
Newton could move infinitely faster through
glass, than Einstein or QM people will ever
even approximatelty catch up to.


??????!


Since sound is a reverberation, that actually
has nothing to do with waves.

Can you please elaborate?

Sound needs an incident pressure to even exist.
but the only part of the pressure wave
that is "hearable" is the frequency band
that it's tuned to hear. But the tuning
operation itself makes the wave "stop",
so at those moments, the sound it no
longer apparently a wave. It's fixed
in space as a mathematical function
that has definite visible edges, at
a *location* is space, rather than
apparently travelling though space.

Out here in the real world, sound is a wave-based phenomenon. While a
single measurement does take a "picture" of an instantaneous peice of time,
it doesn't actually stop anything. Over here at home-studio, we're trying to
use math to describe what actually happens, it's a means to an end, not an
end in itself.