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On May 3, 8:09*am, wrote:
On May 2, 2:08*pm, "Gary Eickmeier" wrote:

But it is an issue with reproduced music. The goal should be realism, not
"accuracy."

But "realism" isn't definable, whereas "accuracy" is easy to define
and gives us something concrete to work towards.


I don't see why ease of definability should in any way affect our
aesthetic goals.



Getting recordings to sound "real" on accurate speakers should be the
business of the recording engineer, not the loudspeaker system.


What exactly are "accurate" speakers? It seems you are building an
argument on a mythological creature that is probably not something
everyone would agree on.


*If
the engineer creates a signal that will sound "real" on an accurate
system then all we need to know is how and where to find an accurate
system.



That is one giant IF.


*If not then we are at sea because your "realistic" sounding
system may well sound realistic on on recording and completely unreal
on another recording or type of music.

That is the reality of the situation to a large degree.



And that's assuming the recording engineer wants the product so sound
"real". *She might (and often does I believe) want it to sound
unrealistic in a particular way. *In that even an "accurate" system
will reproduce her intention, whereas on your "realistic" system it
won't.

I know this is heretical, but we are not "doing" accuracy,
because the recorded signal is not what we are trying to reproduce.

What do you mean "we"? *Speak for yourself! *I want to hear what the
recording engineer recorded, to the extend I can afford to do so.


Good luck with that. *If* that is your goal you will need a seperate
system and room for each recording that is an exact duplicate of the
original equipment and control room used to monitor the recording. Oh
forget that. We also have the mastering room and equipment to boot.




We are
trying to reproduce the original acoustic event,

Well, but the original acoustic even may be abysmal and it may be a
great mistake for the engineer to make it sound like it did in the
hall. *What I actually want to hear is the composer's intention, but
that can only be done via performers and engineers.


The composer's intention? In the case of classical you will simply
have to go to the live show and hope the conductor is channeling the
composer.



the "thing" that was
recorded and compressed down into two or more audio channels. Running them
through two point sources and aiming them at your face is not the answer.

If the event was worth recording and the recording is done right, then
it should sound "real" on accurate speakers. *If it wasn't, it
shouldn't.

Do tell us what exactly goes into a recording that was "done right."
and give us an example of an "accurate" speaker.