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Default Are Gold plugs/sockets a gimmick ?

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 15:32:10 +1100, "Phil Allison"
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"RonSonic"

gold is the most oxygen resistant plating
available and is indispensable for audio
plug usage. there is nothing better.
silver is a better conductor and like copper
it oxidizes very rapidly.
silver tuns black when exposed to light and in
that blackened condition is a terrible conductor


Silver oxide is actually a very good conductor,


** But is in fact * NOT * found as a coating on silver at room temp.

The familiar black tarnish on silver is * silver sulphate * - and that
is
a good insulator at low voltages.

Ron is spreading one of the silliest usenet myths, derived from a
connector
web site & written by an utter ****wit.



** Lack of reply noted !!!!

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Now watch this cretin try squirm out of it ......


You have got not credibility here. Your manifest ill will and belligerence make
it clear that regardless of what you do or do not know you will sling insults
and try to "win" rather than offer information.

which is why silver is so often used on connectors.


** Silver plated connectors are in fact rare. Only used where the mating
pressure is huge and hence air is excluded - ie screw threaded types.


Silver plating is found on a wide range of military and industrial connectors. I
really have no idea what you were talking about when you accused me of passing
on info from a "connector website" I know what I see on equipment and components
that I buy and use. I know that my boat anchors are silver in, out and through.
Those guys didn't spec according to a "connector website" whatever the hell that
is.

The guys I am aware of who deal in fancy, high-priced audio stuff simply do not
use silver plating. They're all gold and rhodium and the like.

Silver IS used an alloy or a plating on other metals for switch contacts -
a totally different ball game.


Okay, Phil, silver ****ing alloy.

Better now?



** You are waaaay out of line again - asshole !

Switches and relay contacts are an * whole separate ball game * to
connectors.


And all of those have used silver for the last 80 years or so.

The only advantage of gold is that it doesn't corrode,


** WRONG - gold plating has one very important advantage as a connecting
material.

It is so soft it flows and tends to cold weld to itself under light to
moderate pressure.

Combined with its immunity to corrosion, this makes it second only to
soldering an electrical connection.



At the thicknesses we're seeing on audio connectors, this is meaningless.
At the
pressures involved, it's downright silly.



** That is ** absolute garbage** !!!

The thinnest layer of gold behaves exactly this way.


It "FLOWS" in a 1/4" phone jack???? If you are using "flow" as a synonym for
"gets scraped off" then maybe you'd be right. True, those are related phenomena
but not really the same as far as actually getting a reliable connection to your
guitar amp.

That * IS * why it is used throughout professional electronics to plate low
usage connectors where small signals are involved.


We aren't talking about "low usage connectors" we're talking about guitar amps.
Where the low usage connectors are the large current ones and the small signal
connectors get high usage.

neither does the more
common, more rugged and much less expensive nickel plating you usually
see
on jacks and plugs.


** Nickel plated connectors are only suitable for high insertion &
removal
situations.


Nickel is very hard, does not flow or cold weld and develops a surface
tarnish that insulates at low voltage if not cleaned off by surface
abrasion.



Tarnish isn't an issue in our application,



** Funny how YOU claimed that nickel does not tarnish.

Try reading you own damn post - asshole.


In actual use tarnish on nickel is not an issue. Tarnish isn't much of an issue
when you're plugging and unplugging often.

You really should look more carefully at what is being discussed before
spouting
off with insults and bad attitude.



** YOU posted absolute ******** - Ron.


If I am ignorant or mistaken, I can correct that with some research. But
whatever is wrong with you isn't nearly so remediable.

Ron