[Trevor]

On 1/09/2020 1:37 pm, geoff wrote:
On 1/09/2020 2:03 pm, Les Cargill wrote:
Trevor wrote:
On 31/08/2020 3:35 am, Les Cargill wrote:
The thing that makes it worse is that there really were "reds under
(some) bed(s)." It wasn't as bad in the US as in Britain, where the
Bloomsbury Group contained at least one asset of the KGB.

HUAC was a deeply anti-Semitic thing and as hapless an effort that's
been attempted.

Such a shame they never worried about the Fascists under the beds
like they did the Communists.

Fascists weren't on record as having as goal unhorsing the American
government.

Of course they weren't going after themselves!


I'd also say there never was a serious American Fascist
movement;

HaHa, only half of the USA would think Trump is not a Fascist! Wonder
what they thought Hitler was?


there was a Communist one. Even American nationalism worked
very differently from European nationalism. Of course there were
nominally roght wing things, but they were quite different - someone
could have fought Nazis and been say, a Bircher without skipping a beat.


True, but what is pretty 'normal' outlook on life in the USA is
considered to have many right-wing aspects by much of the world. And it
seems anything even vaguely approaching what much of the world would
consider as 'middle-of-the-road' (and that is approaching from the
right-hand side !) gets described as 'far-left' or communist by the
currently most vociferous.

It's always worked a treat for the fascists to call every one else
Communists. Especially since hardly anybody even knows what a socialist
is, thinks they are communists, and thinks Fascism is better than
communism, and by extension socialism.
But I think this may have gone a bit off topic!!! :-)