[Patrick Turner]

On May 13, 1:01*pm, flipper wrote:
On Tue, 10 May 2011 00:35:40 -0700, Big Bad Bob

wrote:
On 05/08/11 20:48, flipper so wittily quipped:
I can then compete with the crap products by offering real
performance.

Until such time as you build and sell 'real performance' for the same
or less price as the alleged 'crap' you're just an elitist curmudgeon.

there may be a way to build the 'real performance' stuff AND compete
with the 'crap products',

Maybe or maybe not but that isn't the point. The point is Patrick
doesn't have a clue how to design and manufacture a product for the
mass market.

Patrick has a very clear idea about how to design and manufacture a
product for the mass market. But he doesn't want to, because he sees
it is an excellent recipe for him to lose all his possessions and
become a bankrupt. He'd have to get venture capital, and remove the
quality like the others do to compete, and investors won't invest
unless you give them everything you have in case you go broke, and the
history of tube amp makers shows so many manufacturer wannabes have
gone broke.

Patrick is aware Chinese labour costs are 64c per hour or therabouts,
and he knows he'd have to get stuff made in China to compete. Patrick
is sensible, and knows the risks, and is also 64, and he doesn't plan
to dive into terribly risky ventures producing niche retro mass mades
with serious entreprenurial schemes using his own money; one must use
only other people's money, and be 30 with nothing to lose, so the hard
work of making things happen can be done.


Which is not a criticism, per see, because most people don't and it
wouldn't be a problem if he didn't go around pontificating as if he
did.

Are, but there you go trying to copy the Pope, who pontificates at the
Vatican.....

Patrick Turner.