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Mike Prager wrote:
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Mike Prager wrote:
Perhaps it's time for the group to split into two:
rec.audio.high-end and rec.audio.high-end.haters.

Why? Because the guy asked how much jitter it takes to be audible,

that
makes him a hater of high-end audio? Do "high-end lovers" think

that
question is unimportant or irrelevant? Do you?


Audibility of jitter is a question that has been studied
before. That message had no interesting factual content;it
was just a diatribe apparently based on some preconceived
notion.


But it did elicit at least one substantive response. That's sometimes
how we move ahead here.

Unless I've missed previous posts, that individual has
contributed nothing to this group other than telling some
enthusiasts they are wrong, wrong, wrong. All I have seen is
disdain (or hate) for this hobby, nothing that indicates any
love for or pleasure in it.

That's right: high-end audio is a HOBBY. People do it for
FUN. I am always up for intelligent discussion, but I'd rather
have Carrie Nation meet in church with her fellow liquor
haters than come into the bar where I'm having a drink.


A flawed but revealing analogy. A guy who argues that jitter doesn't
matter is not arguing that high-end audio is an evil hobby, or even a
dumb one. He's only arguing that jitter doesn't matter.

Now why would someone think that "jitter doesn't matter" is a statement
of hatred? All right, I'll concede that his tone was disdainful. But
there is a difference between being critical of people who believe
things that are (or that you believe to be) demonstrably wrong and
being critical of people because they choose to pursue a particular
hobby. You've taken the first statement to imply the second.

I
don't want a PETA representative on my fishing trip. That's
why I suggested that I'd prefer those whose only purpose here
is to pick fights to find another place to vent their spleen.

Of course, it's their right to stay here and do nothing but
carp, pick fights, argue, and twist other people's words.
Usenet is just that kind free. But, those of us who ENJOY the
hobby might have more fun if those who HATE it find their own
spot. Who knows, they might enjoy it, too!

Now Bob, I don't think there are that many whose comment are
only, or mainly, that sort of tendentious griping, but it
seems there are more and more who can't let a discussion go
it's course without picking a fight. Too bad, I think.


Well, think of it as partially making up for the voluminous instances
on the non-moderated and thought-policed sites where people have
asserted that if you can't hear differences between such-and-such
either your system or your hearing must be defective.

bob