On 30/01/2015 17:45, JackA wrote:
On Friday, January 30, 2015 at 11:56:29 AM UTC-5, Scott Dorsey wrote:
JackA wrote:
Scott, thanks for the clip (sounds okay), but that is FAR from what mutilat=
ion exists on Ringo's drum tracks! You claim use some comb filter (weren't =
comb filters used with VCR technology!!??) 
NO!
The clip I gave is ONLY an example so you can understand how much leakage
can be in typical tracks.
Are you talking crosstalk of tape tracks??
In the case of the clip posted, no. He's talking about the whole band
being very audible in the vocal microphone signal. The instrument sounds
are mixed in with the vocal even before the signal gets to the mixing
desk, and nothing the engineer can do will ever reduce that level.
That's the problem with the Beatles old mono recordings, there weren't
enough tracks in the studio to mic everything up as a modern engineer
would, keeping everything isolated until the final mix, so you get time
delayed versions of Ringo on all the other tracks, as well as vice
versa, and these give rise to the bad effects you hear when you try and
remix for stereo reproduction. They can be reduced, but not eliminated
altogether.
In a modern studio, just the drums would have more microphones on them
than there were being used in the Abbey Road studio when the Beatles
were there, just to prevent problems with leakage between channels.
The clip does NOT sound okay, it has extreme leakage.
- Find a better recording engineer, I say.
Or, more effectively, get a better room to record in. It sounds as
though the recording engineer has done well considering the room and
layout of the band. Of course, if the effect of the band hearing this
clip was for them to re-arrange themselves to reduce unwanted leakage of
sounds between the microphones, that's all for the better.
This is an important basic concept that you need to understand in order to
understand one of the most fundamental decisions made during tracking.
-- Maybe because I'm not a recording engineer, but piece things together what my ears tell me.
I'd politely suggest that with proper training and some practice with
real musicians playing and a decent room to record in, you could begin
to understand why some apparently strange decisions are made by the
engineer when recording and mixing.
--
Tciao for Now!
John.