[Scott[_6_]]

On Jul 9, 11:59 am, ScottW2 wrote:
On Jul 8, 9:34 pm, Scott wrote:





On Jul 8, 2:28 pm, ScottW2 wrote:

On Jul 8, 10:33 am, Scott wrote:

On Jul 8, 3:06 am, Ed Seedhouse wrote:

On Jul 7, 8:07 am, "Walker" wrote:
new ones. You don't have to believe me and even if you can convince

me with medical devices that it's in my head it's an improved sound and
worth the money.
Bob Walker

Well then I expect soon we will read a newspaper story about how the
JREF foundation has given you a million dollars for proving that you
can hear such differences under blind conditions. Such a test should
be trivial for you to pass and surely you would not turn down an easy
million dollars?

That's an article that will never be written. JREF are basically
running a shell game with their so called challenge. Any real
demonstration of cables having different sound will ultimately be
disqualified since the cause of such a difference will be within the
laws of physics.

As it should be as most exotic cable manufacturers make claims of
magical properties outside the laws of physics.

the question isn't claims by manufacturers.

It is to me and it quite obviously is to the JREF challenge.

If so then why are they bothering reviewers? Why not make the
challenge to the cable manufacturers. maybe because it is silly to
challenge advertsing copy which is abundant in hyperbole and vague
assertions that are pretty much unchallengable? I guess the real
question is why on earth would you concern yourself over ad copy in a
world where it is silly to take any advertisement at face value. Ads
are sales pitches not documentaries.


the question is audible
differences between cables.

My general opinion is that when audible differences between cables
exist, the cause is a deficiency in the cable design or the equipment
the cable connects.

I'm not going to take you to task for any of your personal subjective
opinions. But I hope you understand that such opinions are just that,
personal and subjective as opposed to universal and objective.




There are occacionally reasons where cables may make an
audible difference. High source impedance devices requiring low
capacitance
cables or noise due to ground impedances (ground loops) are two that
quickly come to mind. But none of these require hi-dollar cables to
address.

According to Ed proving that will get you a million dollars form the
JREF.

Really. So if I put together a system that hums due to a ground loop
and then
replace an interconnect with one with a much lower resistance ground
path audibly reducing the hum....I'll win?

By what Ed has represented yes. I suspect not. But I have actually
read and understood the rules of the challenge. Apparently that gives
me a "unique view" on the subject.


I am skeptical that the JREF has actually made such an open challenge.

They haven't. The challenge is about the magical claims of many hi-
end cable manufacturers as your quote shows.

1. It isn't an open challenge.
2. There are no magical claims I know of. If you can cite any
manufacturers claiming their cables perform better due to magic I'd
like to see it.