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Default The damping factor and the sound of real music

On Dec 24, 11:24*am, Eeyore
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tony sayer wrote:
Eeyore *scribeth thus
Andre Jute wrote:
Eeyore *wrote:
Andre Jute wrote:
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Andre Jute wrote [to Patrick Turner]:


I have never been as impressed with ultra-low silicon-
level Rout as you are


Yeah, you're probably impressed by the phoney low end boost you get with
moving coil loudspeakers when driving them from a high outout impedance
(underdamped resonance). The phrase 'single note bass' comes to mind.


Nah. I have been going to live concerts and thinking seriously about
the music so as to be able to write about it for five decades now.. I
know what reproduced music should sound like. If you want to know,
perhaps it is time for a guy your age, my dear Graham, to stop
pretending you're some kind of overage hipster, and replace those
boomboxes of yours with
a) a set of Mr Walker's marvellously precise electrostatic speakers
(ESL) and


Which don't have very much in the way of bass !


You must have heard that on the street corner where engineers who
cannot afford electrostats gather, Poopie.


It's a well known fact you complete idiot that electrostatics are bass light.
It's


Coloration light you mean...


Electrostatics may indeed have less colouration than most speakers but that has
nothing to do with the bass.


It has everything to do with the bass. Because the bass of an
electrostat is so clean, you can turn it up higher. Most of what
people like you call bass on little box speakers is simply distortion.

The absence of any meaningful baffle means the electrostatics will always have poor
bass repsponse.


This is the nonsense of someone who doesn't have his mind in gear, who
has always simply accepted the lowest common denominator cheap ****
the mass marketers peddle. Yo, Poopie, open your ears and eyes: the
wall is the electrostat's baffle: you just put the thin edge hard up
against the wall. Or you build the electrostat into the wall between
two rooms.

It's inherent to the design (the rear radiation cancels the front
radiation more at low frequencies determined by its physical size).


But, as with every other loudspeaker, your argument simply resolves to
the question of "How much does the customer wish to pay for the best
sound?" If he truly wants the best, he simply buys the biggest Quad
electrostats, and for more of that sound, he buys more of them to
stack, and for even more, he breaks a wall out between two rooms in
his house.

Graham


It's simple when you define the problem correctly, see, Poopie?

Andre Jute
Thumbs well clear of the bricks