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ChrisCoaster
July 3rd 03, 04:29 PM
"Stephen Sank" > wrote in message >...
> Wouldn't you then be talking about a "bi-testicular" recording?
>
> --
that will be FINE - I haven't checked this post in over two weeks and
some of the stuff on here is frightening! I do appreciate the more
objective inputs here, and you know who you are. All I'm aiming to do
is create a more realistic "stereo" image without necessarily pointing
two full sized SM-58s, for example, or AKGs, at the source. Our
heads, for better or worse, are the best stereo microphone casings out
there, and they are certainly not for sale. : )

Thanks,

-ChrisCoaster

Arny Krueger
July 4th 03, 04:23 PM
"ChrisCoaster" > wrote in message
om

> "Stephen Sank" > wrote in message
> >...

>> Wouldn't you then be talking about a "bi-testicular" recording?
>>
>> --

> that will be FINE - I haven't checked this post in over two weeks and
> some of the stuff on here is frightening! I do appreciate the more
> objective inputs here, and you know who you are. All I'm aiming to do
> is create a more realistic "stereo" image without necessarily pointing
> two full sized SM-58s, for example, or AKGs, at the source. Our
> heads, for better or worse, are the best stereo microphone casings out
> there, and they are certainly not for sale. : )

1/4" omni electrets such as those made by Panasonic and sold by Digi-Key
seem to be common grist for this mill.

Scott Dorsey
July 4th 03, 04:41 PM
Richard Kuschel > wrote:
>>
>>Wasen't there a head and shoulder mic (or what ever it was called) at abby
>>road studios.It was a head on a boomstand with microphones in the ears.I
>>remember seeing pictures of it years ago.It was some outrageous amount of
>>money for it.Anyone ever seen or used one of these ???.
>
>There is a "head and shoulder" mic built by DPA that fits the description.
>$18000.00 the last I checked. Probably more now with the exchange rate.

It's called a Kunstkopf. Neumann makes one (and I think Abbey Road has
the Neumann). DPA makes one. HEAD Acoustics makes one.

This is the tool used for binaural recording, and it works very well for
that. If you look for John Sunier's web site "Binaural Source" he has a
lot of sample binaural recordings that you can listen to on your computer
through headphones to get a sense of how it works.

Binaural recording is amazingly realistic and gives a better sense of space
than anything else around, but because it requires headphone playback, the
market is kind of limited.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Arny Krueger
July 4th 03, 05:30 PM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message

> "ChrisCoaster" > wrote in message
> om
>
>> "Stephen Sank" > wrote in message
>> >...
>
>>> Wouldn't you then be talking about a "bi-testicular" recording?
>>>
>>> --
>
>> that will be FINE - I haven't checked this post in over two weeks and
>> some of the stuff on here is frightening! I do appreciate the more
>> objective inputs here, and you know who you are. All I'm aiming to
>> do is create a more realistic "stereo" image without necessarily
>> pointing two full sized SM-58s, for example, or AKGs, at the source.
>> Our heads, for better or worse, are the best stereo microphone
>> casings out there, and they are certainly not for sale. : )
>
> 1/4" omni electrets such as those made by Panasonic and sold by
> Digi-Key seem to be common grist for this mill.

I should add that Styrofoam is way too acoustically transparent to simulate
a human head. A skull-shaped chunk of plaster with silicon molded around it
would be more to the point.

Len Moskowitz
July 4th 03, 07:07 PM
Arny Krueger > wrote:

>> that will be FINE - I haven't checked this post in over two weeks and
>> some of the stuff on here is frightening! I do appreciate the more
>> objective inputs here, and you know who you are. All I'm aiming to do
>> is create a more realistic "stereo" image without necessarily pointing
>> two full sized SM-58s, for example, or AKGs, at the source. Our
>> heads, for better or worse, are the best stereo microphone casings out
>> there, and they are certainly not for sale. : )
>
>1/4" omni electrets such as those made by Panasonic and sold by Digi-Key
>seem to be common grist for this mill.

Our High End Binaural microphone set uses a matched pair of the DPA
4060s. IMO, the 4060s are arguably the finest sounding miniature mics
in the world and have among the lowest self-noise specs of any miniature
mic.

At a lower price point you might consider our Core Sound Binaural mic
set. It starts with a Panasonic capsule, but we modify them quite a bit
so that they end up not much like a stock capsule.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912

Carey Carlan
July 6th 03, 03:25 PM
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in
:

> Binaural recording is amazingly realistic and gives a better sense of
> space than anything else around, but because it requires headphone
> playback, the market is kind of limited.

Since (a) no one seems to care about quality stereo sound anymore and (b)
most of the kids listen on headphones, I'd think that binaural would be the
sound of choice these days.

Oh yeah, the recordings they listen to aren't recorded live. Forgot.

Scott Dorsey
July 6th 03, 06:09 PM
Carey Carlan > wrote:
(Scott Dorsey) wrote in
>
>> Binaural recording is amazingly realistic and gives a better sense of
>> space than anything else around, but because it requires headphone
>> playback, the market is kind of limited.
>
>Since (a) no one seems to care about quality stereo sound anymore and (b)
>most of the kids listen on headphones, I'd think that binaural would be the
>sound of choice these days.

I am kind of surprised that it hasn't taken off in the Era of the Walkman.

>Oh yeah, the recordings they listen to aren't recorded live. Forgot.

No, you can do overdubs with binaural methods. It just takes twice as many
tracks since you basically have to stereomike everything and use the room
to set much of the placement up. But tracks are cheap these days.
--scott

--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."

Len Moskowitz
July 29th 03, 11:41 PM
Scott Dorsey > wrote:

>>> Binaural recording is amazingly realistic and gives a better sense of
>>> space than anything else around, but because it requires headphone
>>> playback, the market is kind of limited.
>>
>>Since (a) no one seems to care about quality stereo sound anymore and (b)
>>most of the kids listen on headphones, I'd think that binaural would be the
>>sound of choice these days.
>
>I am kind of surprised that it hasn't taken off in the Era of the
>>> Walkman.

Binaural mics are very popular. We've been manufacturing them for 13
years and have a healthy following.

--
Len Moskowitz PDAudio, Binaural Mics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio
Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com
Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com
Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912