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Arny Krueger
August 21st 03, 12:59 PM
"John Atkinson" > wrote in message
om

> Here is what appears to be a straightforward exchange between Marc
> Phillips and Arny Krueger:

Except of course the exchange isn't as Atkinson recounts it. He had to
remove critical lines of text in order to perpertrate this, his most recent
lie.

> Begin (mis)quoted text:

> ------------------------------------------------------
> In message >
> Marc Phillips ) wrote:
> Arny said:
>>> Noting that Phillips does not seem to have any problems with child
>>> pornography, other than making false police reports about people he
>>> hates...
>>
>> Then I would have problems with child pornography...
> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Here is how that same message was subsequently quoted by Arny Krueger:
>
> Begin quoted text:
> ------------------------------------------------------
> In message >
> Arny Krueger ) wrote:
>>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>> ...
>> Arny said:
>>>> Noting that Phillips does not seem to have any problems with child
>>>> pornography, other than making false police reports about people he
>>>> hates...
>>>
>>> I have problems getting as much child pornography as I need.
>>
>> Thanks for sharing, Marc!

<Please notice these two additional lines from my post that Atkinson didn't
post>

>>
>> ;-)

Obviously, I was making a joke.

> ------------------------------------------------------
>
> Again:

> 1) Marc Phillips' original statement: "Then I would have problems with
> child pornography."

> 2) As rewritten by Arny Krueger: "I have problems getting as much
> child pornography as I need."

Notice that Atkinson deleted the clear indication that I was making a joke.

Notice that Atkinson gives no indication that he's making a joke, so this
deception is obviously just another one of his lies about me.

> Unless the Krueger posting is a forgery, to those like Mike McKelvy,
> who feel that Arny Krueger is not to blame for the high level of
> flames on r.a.o., how is this childish behavior on AK's part
> excusable?

Yes, it is really childish of Atkinson to delete text in order to turn a
clearly-indicated joke into some kind of a serious-looking affair.

> Just curious.

No, Atkinson has been just caught lying, again.

> John Atkinson
> Editor, Stereophile

i.e., a professional liar.

Arny Krueger
August 21st 03, 03:15 PM
"Moi" > wrote in message

> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:59:32 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote in >:
>
>
>> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that Atkinson
>> didn't post>
>>
>>>>
>>>> ;-)
>>
>> Obviously, I was making a joke.
>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Again:
>>
>>> 1) Marc Phillips' original statement: "Then I would have problems
>>> with child pornography."
>>
>>> 2) As rewritten by Arny Krueger: "I have problems getting as much
>>> child pornography as I need."
>>
>> Notice that Atkinson deleted the clear indication that I was making
>> a joke.

> What clear indication?

The one you deleted again, sockpuppet "Moi".

Moi
August 21st 03, 03:46 PM
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:15:34 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
wrote in >:

>"Moi" > wrote in message

>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:59:32 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
>> wrote in >:
>>
>>
>>> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that Atkinson
>>> didn't post>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ;-)
>>>
>>> Obviously, I was making a joke.
>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Again:
>>>
>>>> 1) Marc Phillips' original statement: "Then I would have problems
>>>> with child pornography."
>>>
>>>> 2) As rewritten by Arny Krueger: "I have problems getting as much
>>>> child pornography as I need."
>>>
>>> Notice that Atkinson deleted the clear indication that I was making
>>> a joke.
>
>> What clear indication?
>
>The one you deleted again, sockpuppet "Moi".
>

If you weren't referring to the blank like followed by ";-)" then
please clarify further.

John Atkinson
August 21st 03, 07:16 PM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>...
> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that Atkinson
> didn't post>
> >>
> >> ;-)
>
> Obviously, I was making a joke.

As you end a large proportion of your posts with the winkey-smiley
emoticon, even when no humor appears to be intended, Mr. Krueger, I
ignore them.

> Notice that Atkinson deleted the clear indication that I was making
> a joke.

Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
am humor-impaired in this regard.

> Notice that Atkinson gives no indication that he's making a joke,

I wasn't making a joke, Mr. Krueger. Like Scott Wheeler, I am growing
weary of your flinging out defamatory insults at those with whom you
disagree over audio on a newsgroup that exists to allow people to post
their opions about audio.

> so this deception is obviously just another one of his lies about me.

I have posted no lies about you, Mr. Krueger. Not one of the accusations
you have made in this regard is supported by the Google record. What I
_have_ done is correct you when have misstated something about me or about
Stereophile. I am sorry that you regard my having done so is equivalent
to "lies."

<snip of grade-school namecalling that Mr. Krueger seems to feel
necessary (Don't worry, Mr. Krueger, the insults are still there
in your orginal posting for all to see and judge both of us
accordingly>

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

tor b
August 21st 03, 08:43 PM
>From: (John Atkinson)
>Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>

>
>Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
>to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
>having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
>am humor-impaired in this regard.
>
I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven allegation
that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you could
provide a Google reference?





tor b

tor 2 u
August 21st 03, 09:36 PM
tor b wrote in message >:

> >From: (John Atkinson)
> >Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >
>
> >
> >Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
> >to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
> >having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
> >am humor-impaired in this regard.
> >
> I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven allegation
> that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you could
> provide a Google reference?
>
>
>


We want to add something for everybody in the group so you'll understand
why we seem to be retarded. Everybody knows what a killfile or kill
filter is, right? We have something similar that we use when somebody
like that mean Mr. Phillips goes off on Arny. It's an Anti-Arny Smear
filter. What that means is we can pretend nobody answered our last post,
even if they did, because when they answered it, it made Arny look bad.
So we can keep demanding the same "proof" over and over no matter how
many times somebody gives it to us. We also pretend we never saw the
post where Arny admitted he has those sexy thoughts about boys like us.
Did we mention we're almost 10 years old now? Our voice is starting to
change. Arny says we'll be in the "sausage club" soon, whatever that
means.

Anyway, if you keep saying those things about Arny, it doesn't matter
what kind of proof there is. Our reaction will always be to say there is
no proof.



Arny is My Kroo-Daddy

Arny Krueger
August 21st 03, 09:44 PM
"tor b" > wrote in message
...
> >From: (John Atkinson)
> >Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
> >
> >
>
> >
> >Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
> >to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
> >having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
> >am humor-impaired in this regard.
> >
> I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven
allegation
> that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you
could
> provide a Google reference?

Right. I guess that makes Atkinson a co-libeler. Letsee, Atkinson has deep
pockets and New York isn't nearly as far from Detroit as it is from Los
Angeles...

tor b
August 21st 03, 09:46 PM
>From: tor 2 u
>Date: 8/21/2003 3:36 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>
>tor b wrote in message >:
>
>> >From: (John Atkinson)
>> >Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
>> >to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
>> >having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
>> >am humor-impaired in this regard.
>> >
>> I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven
>allegation
>> that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you could
>> provide a Google reference?
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>We want to add something for everybody in the group so you'll understand
>why we seem to be retarded. Everybody knows what a killfile or kill
>filter is, right? We have something similar that we use when somebody
>like that mean Mr. Phillips goes off on Arny. It's an Anti-Arny Smear
>filter. What that means is we can pretend nobody answered our last post,
>even if they did, because when they answered it, it made Arny look bad.
>So we can keep demanding the same "proof" over and over no matter how
>many times somebody gives it to us. We also pretend we never saw the
>post where Arny admitted he has those sexy thoughts about boys like us.
>Did we mention we're almost 10 years old now? Our voice is starting to
>change. Arny says we'll be in the "sausage club" soon, whatever that
>means.
>
>Anyway, if you keep saying those things about Arny, it doesn't matter
>what kind of proof there is. Our reaction will always be to say there is
>no proof.
>
>
>
>Arny is My Kroo-Daddy
>
Working for the wife's RE firm these days, are you? "Dedicated to service, fun
to work with"?




tor b

Marc Phillips
August 21st 03, 10:06 PM
Arny said:

>"tor b" > wrote in message
...
>> >From: (John Atkinson)
>> >Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
>> >Message-id: >
>> >
>> >
>>
>> >
>> >Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
>> >to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
>> >having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
>> >am humor-impaired in this regard.
>> >
>> I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven
>allegation
>> that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you
>could
>> provide a Google reference?
>
>Right. I guess that makes Atkinson a co-libeler. Letsee, Atkinson has deep
>pockets and New York isn't nearly as far from Detroit as it is from Los
>Angeles...

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Arny,+daddy,+fellatio&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
safe=off&selm=afvB2.12%24lz6.48%40news.flash.net&rnum=1

Boon

Marc Phillips
August 21st 03, 10:08 PM
Richard Malesweski said:

>>From: (John Atkinson)
>>Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>>
>>
>
>>
>>Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
>>to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
>>having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
>>am humor-impaired in this regard.
>>
>I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven allegation
>that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you could
>provide a Google reference?

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Arny,+daddy,+fellatio&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
safe=off&selm=afvB2.12%24lz6.48%40news.flash.net&rnum=1

Boon

tor b
August 21st 03, 10:32 PM
>From: (Marc Phillips)
>Date: 8/21/2003 4:08 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Richard, er, Doug, uh..Arny said:
>
>>>From: (John Atkinson)
>>>Date: 8/21/2003 1:16 PM Central Daylight Time
>>>Message-id: >
>>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>Even with the winkey-smiley emoticon reinstated, Mr. Krueger, I fail
>>>to see what is funny about accusing someone else of pederasty, of
>>>having a need for child pornography. Perhaps, as you have said, I
>>>am humor-impaired in this regard.
>>>
>>I didn't notice your objection when Mr. Phillips made the unproven
>allegation
>>that Mr. Krueger was a child pornographer. Did I miss it? Perhaps you could
>>provide a Google reference?
>
>http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Arny,+daddy,+fellatio&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&
>safe=off&selm=afvB2.12%24lz6.48%40news.flash.net&rnum=1
>
You keep posting the same broken link over and over, you fat, bumbling bozo.
Post a working link or give a Google message ID.




tor b

Marc Phillips
August 22nd 03, 12:47 AM
Richard Malesweski said:

>You keep posting the same broken link over and over, you fat, bumbling bozo.
>Post a working link or give a Google message ID.

An Internet geek like yourself should know how to get around Outlook Express.

Boon

Robert Morein
August 22nd 03, 01:19 AM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Moi" > wrote in message
>
> > On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:59:32 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> > wrote in >:
> >
> >
> >> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that Atkinson
> >> didn't post>
> >>
> >>>>
> >>>> ;-)
> >>
> >> Obviously, I was making a joke.

Arny, the following is a demonstration of the improper use of emoticons:

**** your mother, you lying slimy hypocritical nazi nematode :).

tor b
August 22nd 03, 02:48 AM
>From: (Marc "bozo" Phillips)
>Date: 8/21/2003 6:47 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >
>
>Richard Krueger/Doug Malesweski/ Arny Haugen said:
>
>>You keep posting the same broken link over and over, you fat, bumbling bozo.
>>Post a working link or give a Google message ID.
>
>An Internet geek like yourself should know how to get around Outlook Express.
>
Too much of a fat, bumbling bozo to post a working link or message ID, eh?
Have it your way, Porky. It's your propaganda, if you want to make it
inaccessible, I'm not going to argue with you. ;-)






tor b

Marc Phillips
August 22nd 03, 05:54 AM
Richard Malesweski said:



>>>You keep posting the same broken link over and over, you fat, bumbling
>bozo.
>>>Post a working link or give a Google message ID.
>>
>>An Internet geek like yourself should know how to get around Outlook
>Express.
>>
>Too much of a fat, bumbling bozo to post a working link or message ID, eh?
>Have it your way, Porky. It's your propaganda, if you want to make it
>inaccessible, I'm not going to argue with you. ;-)

The problem is that you're being dishonest. You know what's in the link.
You've seen it many times.

You've also done the same thing, posting unusable links. In fact, there's a new
website dedicated to reducing Google URLs to usable URLs through OE. George
has used it already.

I'd use it, but frankly, anyone who knows how to use a computer can pull up the
link. That's why Arny has yet to complain about this like you do. Personally,
I'm not an Internet geek, and I don't really care about formatting posts. I do
like them to be readable, so that's why I snip headers and such (you suck at
this, too).

But since you want Arny's name sullied further, here it is:

From: "Arny Krüger" >
Subject: Which member of "The Resistance" takes credit for these?
Date: 1999/02/26
Message-ID: >#1/1
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3
X-Complaints-To:
X-Trace: news.flash.net 920027206 208.194.218.222 (Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:06:46
CDT)
Organization: FlashNet Communications, http://www.flash.net
NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Feb 1999 05:06:46 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.audio.opinion


"The Resistance" - Rothman, Sandman, Bergman, Middius, Briggs, et al would
like you to think they are paragons of truth and justice. We know that they
revel in binary posts that harass people they don't like. It appears that at
least one of their number has gone way off the deep end:

Here is some private email I received last night:

-----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:35 PM
Subject: Hello daddy


>Hello daddy,
>
>Thank you for killing me. You ****ed me so hard Jesus was very happy with my
arrival. I bet the other daddies didn't let their children suck there dick's
like you sucked mine, daddy. I'm glad I'm dead now.
>
>I've sent you a picture to remind me of you.

(attached jpg - fellatio in progress)

-----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:37 PM


>Thank you for killing me daddy

(attached jpg fellatio "completed" with results on cheeks)

----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:39 PM


>You made me come hard, daddy. I'm in heaven now, but you can suck my dick in
your dreams and your prayers.

(attached jpg fellatio "completed" with results on chin and mouth)

-----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 9:42 PM


>Does this bring back good memories, daddy?

(attached jpg picture, nude male with erection being urinated on by nude
male)

-----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:25 PM
Subject: my wavs


>hello daddy,
>
>thank you for murdering me and sodomizing my dead body. please analyse my wav
files daddy.

(attached 494K .wav file, basically low level hum - failed recording attempt?)


-----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:28 PM
Subject: daddy ****s nate


>hello daddy,
>
>thank you for killing me.

(attached 494K .wav file, basically low level hum - failed recording attempt?)

----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:31 PM
Subject: sexy daddy


>can i **** mommy again while you suck my balls daddy

(attached 494K .wav file, basically low level hum - failed recording attempt?)

-----Original Message-----
From: >
To: >
Date: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:34 PM


>what did it feel like to grope me in my coffin, daddy?

(attached 494K .wav file, basically low level hum - failed recording attempt?)

Now, here is the question - does this have anything do to with their other
attempts to slander me - are they all equally "true"?

---end post---

Arny made this all up out of the blue. There were no e-mails sent to him. You
know this. You still support him.

Get it, pervert?

Boon

tor b
August 22nd 03, 12:06 PM
>From: (Marc "hang 'em high" Phillips)
>Date: 8/21/2003 11:54 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >

'George Middius', speaking through Porky Phillips wrote:

>Arny made this all up out of the blue.
>
Evidence, please!
>
There were no e-mails sent to him.
>
According to who, Porky? "Leon North"? Who the **** is "Leon North"?
Isn't "Leon North" what you used to deride as "an anonymous Usenet asshole"? I
guess it's okay with you for someone to be an "anonymous Usenet asshole" if
they are on "your side", eh?
Hypocrite!
>
>You know this.
>

I know that you, 'George Middius' and others are trying to drive someone you
detest off this forum by making unsubstantiated allegations and repeating them
over and over and over.
>

>You still support him.
>

Wrong, burger breath. I *oppose* your lynch mob tactics.






tor b

Arny Krueger
August 22nd 03, 12:47 PM
"Robert Morein" > wrote in message

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "Moi" > wrote in message
>>
>>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:59:32 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
>>> > wrote in >:
>>>
>>>
>>>> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that
>>>> Atkinson didn't post>
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, I was making a joke.
>
> Arny, the following is a demonstration of the improper use of
> emoticons:
>
> **** your mother, you lying slimy hypocritical nazi nematode :).


After being roundly criticized for putting two different cycles of the
Beethoven Symphonies on my NJB3, being criticized for putting an emoticon on
its own line of text seems predictable.

I pray every day that God would give you idiots lives.

MiNE 109
August 22nd 03, 01:02 PM
In article >,
"Arny Krueger" > wrote:

> "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
>
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Moi" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:59:32 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> >>> > wrote in >:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that
> >>>> Atkinson didn't post>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously, I was making a joke.
> >
> > Arny, the following is a demonstration of the improper use of
> > emoticons:
> >
> > **** your mother, you lying slimy hypocritical nazi nematode :).
>
>
> After being roundly criticized for putting two different cycles of the
> Beethoven Symphonies on my NJB3,

Not on RAO...

> being criticized for putting an emoticon on
> its own line of text seems predictable.

Let us know when that happens.

> I pray every day that God would give you idiots lives.

Robert Morein
August 22nd 03, 03:27 PM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
...
> "Robert Morein" > wrote in message
>
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Moi" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 07:59:32 -0400, "Arny Krueger"
> >>> > wrote in >:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> <Please notice these two additional lines from my post that
> >>>> Atkinson didn't post>
> >>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ;-)
> >>>>
> >>>> Obviously, I was making a joke.
> >
> > Arny, the following is a demonstration of the improper use of
> > emoticons:
> >
> > **** your mother, you lying slimy hypocritical nazi nematode :).
>
>
> After being roundly criticized for putting two different cycles of the
> Beethoven Symphonies on my NJB3, being criticized for putting an emoticon
on
> its own line of text seems predictable.
>
> I pray every day that God would give you idiots lives.
>
You completely miss the point.
There is the saying "In every joke there's a little bit of truth."
There are mortal insults and slanders which cannot be turned into jokes by
emoticons.
Therefore, they should not be used in such circumstances.
The example sentence is a joke, because I believe the genes vs. environment
controvery has not been settled.

tor 2 u
August 22nd 03, 05:06 PM
tor b wrote in message >:

> >From: (Marc "hang 'em high" Phillips)
> >Date: 8/21/2003 11:54 PM Central Daylight Time
> >Message-id: >
>
> 'George Middius', speaking through Porky Phillips wrote:
>
> >Arny made this all up out of the blue.
> >
> Evidence, please!
> >
> There were no e-mails sent to him.
> >
> According to who, Porky? "Leon North"? Who the **** is "Leon North"?
> Isn't "Leon North" what you used to deride as "an anonymous Usenet asshole"? I
> guess it's okay with you for someone to be an "anonymous Usenet asshole" if
> they are on "your side", eh?
> Hypocrite!
> >
> >You know this.
> >
>
> I know that you, 'George Middius' and others are trying to drive someone you
> detest off this forum by making unsubstantiated allegations and repeating them
> over and over and over.
> >
>
> >You still support him.
> >
>
> Wrong, burger breath. I *oppose* your lynch mob tactics.
>



Mommy said we have to apologize for "going ballistic". I thought
ballistic meant like a guided missile. When I grow up I'm going to be an
Aeronautical Engineer. Anyway, we apologize. I think Mommy meant we
shouldn't use swear words and call people names and pretend they aren't
who they say they are if we don't know what we're talking about. We
don't always do what Mommy says but we usually do.

Arny, why didn't you come over for our birthday party? We are 10 now.
How old are you? We like the present you sent me. If it was from you,
because it didn't say. It's a cool color and it looks like our dad's
peepee. It's a lot bigger than your peepee. We don't understand the card
though. Why did you write "Practice, Practice, Practice" on there? We
also don't want to be your "firehose boy", whatever that means.

Bye Arny. We're sorry for getting mad all the time.



Arny is My Kroo-Daddy

Arny Krueger
August 22nd 03, 06:15 PM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message


<Snip disgusting email that Phillips loves to post and repost>

> Arny made this all up out of the blue.

Prove it.

> There were no e-mails sent to him.

Marc Phillips is either omniscient, or he's making an argument something
like this:

(1) If something this disgusting were sent to Arny Krueger, it would only be
sent by Marc & Associates.

(2) Marc *knows* that he and his associates didn't send this particular
disgusting email to Arny Krueger.

(3) Marc therefore *knows* that this email wasn't ever sent to Arny Krueger.

Obviously, this is a bogus argument because Marc can't possibly know that
statement (1) is true.

> You know this.

Probably the best factual knowledge in this area is possessed by Marc, but
that's only because he or one of his associates actually sent the disgusting
email being discussed here.

You see, either Marc knows nothing, or he is guilty. Anybody who either
didn't do it, or doesn't have inside info about who did it knows nothing.

By claiming to have special knowledge in this matter, Marc is implicitly
exposing himself or one of his associates as being the perpetrator. Marc
started bringing this matter up on RAO when he realized that there was some
chance that the garbage he sent me was child pornography. He wanted me to
have it professionally examined to clear him of legal responsibility for
sending me child pornography, which in due course I did for him.

>You still support him.

Hey, and John Atkinson supports you Marc. Emboldened by his recent
supportive statements you've switched from just posting URLs quoting this
gross post, you've gone back to posting its text. I hold Atkinson personally
responsible for this affront to common decency, FWIW.

> Get it, pervert?

So that's what you and Atkinson call each other when you are traveling
together, eh Phillips?

;-)

Powell
August 22nd 03, 07:15 PM
"Robert Morein" wrote

> > I pray every day that God would give
> > you idiots lives.
> >
> You completely miss the point.
> There is the saying "In every joke there's a
> little bit of truth." There are mortal insults
> and slanders which cannot be turned into
> jokes by emoticons.
>
Hypocrite, remove the timber from your own
eye first.

Robert Morein
August 22nd 03, 08:24 PM
"Powell" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Robert Morein" wrote
>
> > > I pray every day that God would give
> > > you idiots lives.
> > >
> > You completely miss the point.
> > There is the saying "In every joke there's a
> > little bit of truth." There are mortal insults
> > and slanders which cannot be turned into
> > jokes by emoticons.
> >
> Hypocrite, remove the timber from your own
> eye first.
>
Hypocrite, remove the telephone pole from your cranium first.

Marc Phillips
August 22nd 03, 08:57 PM
Richard Malesweski said:

>I *oppose* your lynch mob tactics.

I oppose your cowardice, and your continued support of a pedophile.

Boon

Marc Phillips
August 22nd 03, 08:58 PM
Arny said:

><Snip disgusting email that Phillips loves to post and repost>

The one that you wrote? Does this mean you finally feel remorse for making
that sick crap up?

Boon

George M. Middius
August 22nd 03, 09:05 PM
Marc Phillips said to ****-for-Brains:

> ><Snip disgusting email that Phillips loves to post and repost>

> The one that you wrote? Does this mean you finally feel remorse for making
> that sick crap up?

Wow. The Big **** finally admits he disgusts himself. His journey
to the Dark Side must be complete by now.

Arny Krueger
August 22nd 03, 10:34 PM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Arny said:

>> <Snip disgusting email that Phillips loves to post and repost>

> The one that you wrote?

Yup, under duress. You see there was a serious family tragedy and people
like Marc Phillips have been trying to take advantage of it to force me off
of RAO for about 4 years. This is just a tiny part of the larger problem
with people like Marc Phillips who have lost all perspective on life.

> Does this mean you finally feel remorse for making that sick crap up?

I only wish that I had made it up. It is all too real. The record of google
clearly shows an unbelievable lack of humanity on your part, Marc and for
what? Some disagreements about audio? It's freakin' unbelievable!

I used to have a higher impression of the human race. But after 9/11,
learning about the Taliban, seeing what Sadam Hussein was really doing in
Iraq, and experiencing a 6 year vendetta by Marc Phillips, David Weil,
George Middius and John Atkinson, I've had to set my estimation of the human
race a little lower.

tor b
August 23rd 03, 12:44 AM
>From: "Arny Krueger"
>Date: 8/22/2003 12:15 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: >

<snipped>

>By claiming to have special knowledge in this matter, Marc is implicitly
>exposing himself or one of his associates as being the perpetrator. Marc
>started bringing this matter up on RAO when he realized that there was some
>chance that the garbage he sent me
>was child pornography.

This connection between Phillips and porn is not at all far-fetched. Last year
on audio annex, Porky said "his wife" (wink, wink) was "addicted to Consumption
Junction."

http://www.consumptionjunction.com

There are alot of porn links on this site. I'm sure Porky has visited more than
a few as he tries to "love his lever".






tor b

Arny Krueger
August 23rd 03, 01:36 AM
"tor b" > wrote in message

>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>> Date: 8/22/2003 12:15 PM Central Daylight Time
>> Message-id: >
>
> <snipped>
>
>> By claiming to have special knowledge in this matter, Marc is
>> implicitly exposing himself or one of his associates as being the
>> perpetrator. Marc started bringing this matter up on RAO when he
>> realized that there was some chance that the garbage he sent me
>> was child pornography.
>
> This connection between Phillips and porn is not at all far-fetched.
> Last year on audio annex, Porky said "his wife" (wink, wink) was
> "addicted to Consumption Junction."

You tell not a lie:

http://www.audioannex.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Board=2&Number=11427&Search=
true&Forum=All_Forums&Words=consumption%20junction&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Sea
rchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=11413

Marc Phillips wrote:


"It's bad enough that my wife is addicted to Consumption Junction and shows
me all sorts of ****ed up **** on a regular basis. Plus, she's an EMT and
likes to tell me stories about what the paramedics call "scoop-and-runs."

"My balls hurt now. Damn you. ;-)"


I guess I'm really dense because I don't get the connection between grisly
scenes and testicular pain. Is this some kind of special fetish that Marc
has? Does mention of grisly scenes trigger some painful kind of self-abuse
on his part? If so, this explains the nasty pictures that he must have been
the one to send me...


> http://www.consumptionjunction.com

> There are alot of porn links on this site. I'm sure Porky has visited
> more than a few as he tries to "love his lever".

If Marc's wife is obsessed with grisly scenes, we can understand her
interest in him....

John Atkinson
August 23rd 03, 01:49 AM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>...
> I hold Atkinson personally responsible for this affront to common
> decency...

I am not sure I understand you here, Mr. Krueger. I didn't write the
offensive post in question, neither did I post it to r.a.o. nor repost
it. In fact the person who wrote this nasty piece of prose, which you now
admit is offensive, was none other than _yourself_. How, therefore, am
_I_ "personally responsible" for it?

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Arny Krueger
August 23rd 03, 02:38 AM
"John Atkinson" > wrote in message
om

> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> >...

>>Emboldened by (Atkinson's) recent
>>supportive statements (Phillips) switched from just posting URLs quoting
this
>>gross post, you've gone back to posting its text. I hold Atkinson
personally
>>responsible for this affront to common decency, FWIW.

> I am not sure I understand you here, Mr. Krueger. What I just said seems
clear enough.

You are obviously quite reading impaired Mr. Atkinson.

> I didn't write the offensive post in question, neither did I post it to
r.a.o. nor repost it.

You are obviously quite reading impaired Mr. Atkinson. Try rereading my text
starting with the words "Emboldened".

> In fact the person who wrote this nasty piece of prose, which you
> now admit is offensive, was none other than _yourself_.

I wrote it some years ago. Why is it that it is being quoted over and over
again in an vain attempt to embarrass in humiliate me? Atkinson, why are you
promoting and defending this activity?

Mr. Atkinson, do tell us about how many tragedies your family has had of the
scale being discussed here. I want names and dates.

And if you have nothing relevant to supply, we'll just attribute your
obvious insensitivity and callousness to immaturity and inexperience,
compounded by bad training.

> How, therefore, am _I_ "personally responsible" for it?


You are obviously quite reading impaired Mr. Atkinson. Do try rereading my
text starting with the words "Emboldened".

Marc Phillips
August 23rd 03, 03:45 AM
Richard Malesweski said:



>>From: "Arny Krueger"
>>Date: 8/22/2003 12:15 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Message-id: >
>
><snipped>
>
>>By claiming to have special knowledge in this matter, Marc is implicitly
>>exposing himself or one of his associates as being the perpetrator. Marc
>>started bringing this matter up on RAO when he realized that there was some
>>chance that the garbage he sent me
>>was child pornography.
>
>This connection between Phillips and porn is not at all far-fetched. Last
>year
>on audio annex, Porky said "his wife" (wink, wink) was "addicted to
>Consumption
>Junction."
>
>http://www.consumptionjunction.com
>
>There are alot of porn links on this site. I'm sure Porky has visited more
>than
>a few as he tries to "love his lever".

I don't think I like your mob mentality!

BTW, what do you think of the recent thread that discussed ogrish.com, which is
ten times as bad as CJ?

Boon

Marc Phillips
August 23rd 03, 08:15 AM
Hey, Arny...can't you even come up with a new subject header without ****ing it
up with bad spelling?

What a dumbass.

Boon

Arny Krueger
August 23rd 03, 10:53 AM
"dave weil" > wrote in message

> On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 17:34:36 -0400, "Arny Krueger" >
> wrote:
>
>> "Marc Phillips" > wrote in message
>>
>>> Arny said:
>>
>>>> <Snip disgusting email that Phillips loves to post and repost>
>>
>>> The one that you wrote?
>>
>> Yup, under duress. You see there was a serious family tragedy
>
> What tragedy is that?

The tragedy of knowing who you are David Weil, and what you are.

Arny Krueger
August 23rd 03, 10:55 AM
"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

> Richard Malesweski said:
>
>
>
>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>> Date: 8/22/2003 12:15 PM Central Daylight Time
>>> Message-id: >
>>
>> <snipped>
>>
>>> By claiming to have special knowledge in this matter, Marc is
>>> implicitly exposing himself or one of his associates as being the
>>> perpetrator. Marc started bringing this matter up on RAO when he
>>> realized that there was some chance that the garbage he sent me
>>> was child pornography.
>>
>> This connection between Phillips and porn is not at all far-fetched.
>> Last year
>> on audio annex, Porky said "his wife" (wink, wink) was "addicted to
>> Consumption
>> Junction."
>>
>> http://www.consumptionjunction.com
>>
>> There are alot of porn links on this site. I'm sure Porky has
>> visited more than
>> a few as he tries to "love his lever".
>
> I don't think I like your mob mentality!
>
> BTW, what do you think of the recent thread that discussed
> ogrish.com, which is ten times as bad as CJ?

This is going to be interesting - Marc Phillips is obviously going to try to
top his previous egregiously gross behavior on RAO.

John Atkinson
August 23rd 03, 02:26 PM
"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
>...
> Mr. Atkinson, do tell us about how many tragedies your family has had
> of the scale being discussed here. I want names and dates.

I fail to see why this is any of your usiness, Mr. Krueger. It is probable
that everyone posting to this newsgroup has suffered such losses. I have
done so, but it is no relevance to a newsgroup that is supposed to be
about audio.

As I said, the only person who has done so on r.a.o., and who did so in
a message that by your own admission was offensive, was yourself, Mr.
Krueger.

John Atkinson
Editor, Stereophile

Marc Phillips
August 23rd 03, 07:03 PM
Arny said:

>"Marc Phillips" > wrote in message

>> Richard Malesweski said:
>>
>>
>>
>>>> From: "Arny Krueger"
>>>> Date: 8/22/2003 12:15 PM Central Daylight Time
>>>> Message-id: >
>>>
>>> <snipped>
>>>
>>>> By claiming to have special knowledge in this matter, Marc is
>>>> implicitly exposing himself or one of his associates as being the
>>>> perpetrator. Marc started bringing this matter up on RAO when he
>>>> realized that there was some chance that the garbage he sent me
>>>> was child pornography.
>>>
>>> This connection between Phillips and porn is not at all far-fetched.
>>> Last year
>>> on audio annex, Porky said "his wife" (wink, wink) was "addicted to
>>> Consumption
>>> Junction."
>>>
>>> http://www.consumptionjunction.com
>>>
>>> There are alot of porn links on this site. I'm sure Porky has
>>> visited more than
>>> a few as he tries to "love his lever".
>>
>> I don't think I like your mob mentality!
>>
>> BTW, what do you think of the recent thread that discussed
>> ogrish.com, which is ten times as bad as CJ?
>
>This is going to be interesting - Marc Phillips is obviously going to try to
>top his previous egregiously gross behavior on RAO.

What does that have to do with what I just said? Are you hallucinating? Do
you even bother following along with the conversation anymore, or do you just
pull quotes out of a book?

Boon