Energy C9 speakers

[Srinath Alapati]

Greetings everyone!

I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They go
for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and occasionally
for movies as two fronts.

Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this price
range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena audition
AS-F2 are pretty good.

Thanks
Srinath

[Joseph Oberlander]

Srinath Alapati wrote:
> Greetings everyone!
>
> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They go
> for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and occasionally
> for movies as two fronts.
>
> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this price
> range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena audition
> AS-F2 are pretty good.

Mirage makes a better speaker - same parent company. FRx-9. Has
an integrated subwoofer in each speaker.

Athenas are also very good. A pair of S2/P2 speakers(2-way top
and a small sub for each) The S3/P2 is even better, but costs a
bit over your budget.

Lastly, for ~$1350 if you haggle a little, you can get a pair of
Tannoy Saturn 8 speakers. These are much better - clean and
realistic midrange and high-end, decent bass. A pair of Saturn 6
towers sounds nearly identical, and are about $1200(figure $1100
real price).

My father's S8s are loud. Huge soundstage good for at least 30+ ft
of projection, plus no compression or distortion until you get
them far far louder than even movies would require. I play it a lot
louder than he does when watching a movie and the 110WPC amplifier
is still only putting out 10WPC to approach deafening levels.

Easily pummel the Energy/Mirage/Athenas in quality, though the
FRX-9 and Athenas have better bass due to the subwoofers.

[Schizoid Man]

> Lastly, for ~$1350 if you haggle a little, you can get a pair of
> Tannoy Saturn 8 speakers. These are much better - clean and
> realistic midrange and high-end, decent bass. A pair of Saturn 6
> towers sounds nearly identical, and are about $1200(figure $1100
> real price).

Just out of curiosity, do you work for Tannoy? :-)

Srinath,

If you must go the Canadian route (a la Energy, Mirage) then you must also
audition Paradigm Reference and PSB.

[Max Holubitsky]

Joseph Oberlander wrote:

> Srinath Alapati wrote:
> > Greetings everyone!
> >
> > I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They go
> > for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and occasionally
> > for movies as two fronts.
> >
> > Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this price
> > range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena audition
> > AS-F2 are pretty good.
>
> Mirage makes a better speaker - same parent company. FRx-9. Has
> an integrated subwoofer in each speaker.
>
> Athenas are also very good. A pair of S2/P2 speakers(2-way top
> and a small sub for each) The S3/P2 is even better, but costs a
> bit over your budget.
>
> Lastly, for ~$1350 if you haggle a little, you can get a pair of
> Tannoy Saturn 8 speakers. These are much better - clean and
> realistic midrange and high-end, decent bass. A pair of Saturn 6
> towers sounds nearly identical, and are about $1200(figure $1100
> real price).

I also auditioned the Energy speakers mentioned above, as well as a fairly
decent variety of other speakers in the same price range, and I was
impressed, but I bought the Tannoy Saturn S6's.

I auditioned the 8's, but the 6's suited my needs better, and fit into my
apartment wonderfully. I could not possibly be happier with the Tannoy
Saturn S6 speakers, they have great frequency response, low distortion,
excellent treble dispersion (no change in sound from standing to sitting,
like my old magnaplanar's, and off axis response dosen't seem to suffer
much!) ... they sound great with all types of music I can throw at them, and
have taught me what stereo imaging is all about. They also have incredible
bass extension for their size. It's amazing how much information I never
knew was on my CDs. Unlike every other speaker system I have lived with, I
cannot really pick out a specific weak point.

There are better looking speakers out there than the Tannoy's, especially at
the price point, however ever since I got them a few months ago, I look
forward to going home and listening to the stereo, and I have something
playing the majority of the time I am at home.


>
>
> My father's S8s are loud. Huge soundstage good for at least 30+ ft
> of projection, plus no compression or distortion until you get
> them far far louder than even movies would require. I play it a lot
> louder than he does when watching a movie and the 110WPC amplifier
> is still only putting out 10WPC to approach deafening levels.
>
> Easily pummel the Energy/Mirage/Athenas in quality, though the
> FRX-9 and Athenas have better bass due to the subwoofers.

[Srinath Alapati]

Thanks for the feedback so far. I visited the Tannoy website. Can't
seem to find dealer info. Does anyone know dealers in California or
can anyone point me to dealer list for USA?
thx
srinath

[Joseph Oberlander]

Schizoid Man wrote:
>>Lastly, for ~$1350 if you haggle a little, you can get a pair of
>>Tannoy Saturn 8 speakers. These are much better - clean and
>>realistic midrange and high-end, decent bass. A pair of Saturn 6
>>towers sounds nearly identical, and are about $1200(figure $1100
>>real price).
>
>
> Just out of curiosity, do you work for Tannoy? :-)

No.

Heh.

I have listened to many speakers and the Saturns are a definite
notch above the typical consumer speakers. They bested the smaller
B&W towers and the Mirage FRx towers in a side-by-side comparison.

(had B&W, Mirage FRx, Tannoy MX, Tannoy Revolution, and Saturn
all in the same room - the entire line for each, all hooked up
to a completely ridiculous looking overkill switchbox. Not the
typical audio store pushbutton affair, but something lifted from
a studio - about two ft high worth of rack space. Decent enough
to be a meaningless factor at this perfromance level.

Listening:

Quite noticeable, in fact - huge difference in midrange clarity
and ability to resolve harmonics and interactions between voices
and insturments. I could easily pick out each instrument in
a recording of an orchestral piece in repeated listenings. The
Tannoy MX and Mirage FRx were not even close.

Oddly enough, the Tannoy MX and Mirage FRx were indistinguishable
in a blind test. Wierd - the towers sound virtually identical.

The B&W - well, it needed a real woofer and not a passive assembly.

THe Athena S3/P2 combo was the best sounding due to the 3-way
bookshelf on top, but was pushing $1700 or so for the set. Two
8-inch subs though - great full-range sound. The S3 bookshelf
speakers are a HUGE improvement over the other Energy/Mirage/Athena
bookshelf speakers.

My father chose the S8s because they were really close to the
Athenas but cost a few hundred less at the cost of the deep bass.
Since he listens to mostly folk and vocal music, it was a good choice.

Me? I don't know. Probably the Athenas, but I listen to organ
music and watch movies. I already have big speakers, though,
so I'm not in the market until I'm ready to buy some stats or
planars.

[Joseph Oberlander]

Srinath Alapati wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback so far. I visited the Tannoy website. Can't
> seem to find dealer info. Does anyone know dealers in California or
> can anyone point me to dealer list for USA?
> thx
> srinath

Where are you located?

I know of several in the Southern California area.(guess where
I live/melt in the heat?)

[Srinath Alapati]

San Jose, CA.

> Where are you located?
>
> I know of several in the Southern California area.(guess where
> I live/melt in the heat?)

[Margaret von Busenhalter]

"Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
om...
> Greetings everyone!
>
> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They go
> for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and occasionally
> for movies as two fronts.
>
> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this price
> range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena audition
> AS-F2 are pretty good.
>
> Thanks
> Srinath


I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other box.

Cheers,

Margaret

[Arny Krueger]

"Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message

> "Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
> om...
>> Greetings everyone!
>>
>> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They go
>> for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and occasionally
>> for movies as two fronts.
>>
>> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this price
>> range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena
>> audition AS-F2 are pretty good.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Srinath
>
>
> I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other box.


Glad to see you could pull yourself away from your obsession with pedophilia
and do a little audio, Maggie.

;-)

[Margaret von Busenhalter]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
>
> > "Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
> > om...
> >> Greetings everyone!
> >>
> >> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They go
> >> for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and occasionally
> >> for movies as two fronts.
> >>
> >> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this price
> >> range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena
> >> audition AS-F2 are pretty good.
> >>
> >> Thanks
> >> Srinath
> >
> >
> > I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other box.
>
>
> Glad to see you could pull yourself away from your obsession with
pedophilia
> and do a little audio, Maggie.
>
> ;-)
>

So who introduced pedophilia *again* to an audio thread, for the umpteenth
time? Let's see...Arny Krueger.

So what is your take on the ACI's, Arny?


Cheers,

Margaret

[Margaret von Busenhalter]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
>
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
> >>
> >>> "Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
> >>> om...
> >>>> Greetings everyone!
> >>>>
> >>>> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They
> >>>> go for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and
> >>>> occasionally for movies as two fronts.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this
> >>>> price range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena
> >>>> audition AS-F2 are pretty good.
>
> >>> I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other box.
>
> >> Glad to see you could pull yourself away from your obsession with
> >> pedophilia and do a little audio, Maggie.
> >>
> >> ;-)
>
>
> > So who introduced pedophilia *again* to an audio thread, for the
> > umpteenth time? Let's see...Arny Krueger.
>
> Tell you what Maggie. When you can prove that I've introduced pedophilia
> into audio threads more often than say Marc Phillips, please post again.
>

I never claimed that you were the most prolific one. I merely claimed that
you are a notable one. So we agree.


> > So what is your take on the ACI's, Arny?
>
> Never heard them. Of course its easy to say that you've heard just about
> anything when you're posting under a wrong-sex alias, right sockpuppet
> Maggie?

Of course its easy to say that you've heard just about
anything when you're posting under a grief-stricken father alias, right
pedophile
Arny?

>
> What about those quad ESL's?
>

Heard them enough to prefer CLS's.

> ;-)
>

Indeed.


Cheers,

Margaret

[Arny Krueger]

"Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
. ..
>
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
> > "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
> >
> > > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > >> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
> > >>
> > >>> "Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
> > >>> om...
> > >>>> Greetings everyone!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them. They
> > >>>> go for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and
> > >>>> occasionally for movies as two fronts.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this
> > >>>> price range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the athena
> > >>>> audition AS-F2 are pretty good.
> >
> > >>> I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other box.
> >
> > >> Glad to see you could pull yourself away from your obsession with
> > >> pedophilia and do a little audio, Maggie.
> > >>
> > >> ;-)
> >
> >
> > > So who introduced pedophilia *again* to an audio thread, for the
> > > umpteenth time? Let's see...Arny Krueger.
> >
> > Tell you what Maggie. When you can prove that I've introduced pedophilia
> > into audio threads more often than say Marc Phillips, please post again.
> >
>
> I never claimed that you were the most prolific one.

Then why did you mention me first? Or is this yet another example of your
confusion in the matter, Maggie?

>I merely claimed that you are a notable one.

You've obviously highly confused. Surely sockpuppet Benchimol is more
notable.

> So we agree.

Only if you admit that biologically you're a male, sockpuppet "Maggie".

>
> > > So what is your take on the ACI's, Arny?
> >
> > Never heard them. Of course its easy to say that you've heard just about
> > anything when you're posting under a wrong-sex alias, right sockpuppet
> > Maggie?

> Of course its easy to say that you've heard just about
> anything when you're posting under a grief-stricken father alias, right
> pedophile
> Arny?

Remember sockpuppet Maggie you just admitted that you sent me the pedophile
email. That gets me 100% off the hook. Next time try to remember your lies
for more than a few minutes, would you?

[Margaret von Busenhalter]

"Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
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> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
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> >
> > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
> > >
> > > > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > >> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in
message
> > > >>
> > > >>> "Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
> > > >>> om...
> > > >>>> Greetings everyone!
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them.
They
> > > >>>> go for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and
> > > >>>> occasionally for movies as two fronts.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this
> > > >>>> price range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the
athena
> > > >>>> audition AS-F2 are pretty good.
> > >
> > > >>> I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other box.
> > >
> > > >> Glad to see you could pull yourself away from your obsession with
> > > >> pedophilia and do a little audio, Maggie.
> > > >>
> > > >> ;-)
> > >
> > >
> > > > So who introduced pedophilia *again* to an audio thread, for the
> > > > umpteenth time? Let's see...Arny Krueger.
> > >
> > > Tell you what Maggie. When you can prove that I've introduced
pedophilia
> > > into audio threads more often than say Marc Phillips, please post
again.
> > >
> >
> > I never claimed that you were the most prolific one.
>
> Then why did you mention me first? Or is this yet another example of your
> confusion in the matter, Maggie?
>
> >I merely claimed that you are a notable one.
>
> You've obviously highly confused. Surely sockpuppet Benchimol is more
> notable.
>
> > So we agree.
>
> Only if you admit that biologically you're a male, sockpuppet "Maggie".
>
> >
> > > > So what is your take on the ACI's, Arny?
> > >
> > > Never heard them. Of course its easy to say that you've heard just
about
> > > anything when you're posting under a wrong-sex alias, right sockpuppet
> > > Maggie?
>
> > Of course its easy to say that you've heard just about
> > anything when you're posting under a grief-stricken father alias, right
> > pedophile
> > Arny?
>
> Remember sockpuppet Maggie you just admitted that you sent me the
pedophile
> email. That gets me 100% off the hook. Next time try to remember your lies
> for more than a few minutes, would you?
>
>

So what are you gonna do about it? Seems like you have a good case and you
should win easily...


Cheers,

Margaret

[Arny Krueger]

"Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
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>
> "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
> > . ..
> > >
> > > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in message
> > > >
> > > > > "Arny Krueger" > wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > >> "Margaret von Busenhalter" > wrote in
> message
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> "Srinath Alapati" > wrote in message
> > > > >>> om...
> > > > >>>> Greetings everyone!
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> I auditioned the Energy C-9s last week and really liked them.
> They
> > > > >>>> go for $1300/pair. I plan to use them for mainly music and
> > > > >>>> occasionally for movies as two fronts.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Any opinions on these speakers and are there any others in this
> > > > >>>> price range that I should look into auditioning? I heard the
> athena
> > > > >>>> audition AS-F2 are pretty good.
> > > >
> > > > >>> I would buy ACI Sapphires in that price range over any other
box.
> > > >
> > > > >> Glad to see you could pull yourself away from your obsession with
> > > > >> pedophilia and do a little audio, Maggie.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> ;-)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > So who introduced pedophilia *again* to an audio thread, for the
> > > > > umpteenth time? Let's see...Arny Krueger.
> > > >
> > > > Tell you what Maggie. When you can prove that I've introduced
> pedophilia
> > > > into audio threads more often than say Marc Phillips, please post
> again.
> > > >
> > >
> > > I never claimed that you were the most prolific one.
> >
> > Then why did you mention me first? Or is this yet another example of
your
> > confusion in the matter, Maggie?
> >
> > >I merely claimed that you are a notable one.
> >
> > You've obviously highly confused. Surely sockpuppet Benchimol is more
> > notable.
> >
> > > So we agree.
> >
> > Only if you admit that biologically you're a male, sockpuppet "Maggie".
> >
> > >
> > > > > So what is your take on the ACI's, Arny?
> > > >
> > > > Never heard them. Of course its easy to say that you've heard just
> about
> > > > anything when you're posting under a wrong-sex alias, right
sockpuppet
> > > > Maggie?
> >
> > > Of course its easy to say that you've heard just about
> > > anything when you're posting under a grief-stricken father alias,
right
> > > pedophile
> > > Arny?
> >
> > Remember sockpuppet Maggie you just admitted that you sent me the
> pedophile
> > email. That gets me 100% off the hook. Next time try to remember your
lies
> > for more than a few minutes, would you?
> >
> >
>
> So what are you gonna do about it? Seems like you have a good case and you
> should win easily...

Maggie my good man, sometimes I know a joke when I see one, and you're a
joke.

[MiNe 109]

In article >,
"Schizoid Man" > wrote:

> "Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
> ...
> > One other choice I forgot to mention.
> >
> > Ellis Audio. Best under $2000 speakers made.
>
> Isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement? What about B&W, Dynaudio,
> Triangle, Bose?...

One thing is not like the other...

> <snip>
>
> > 22 ratings on audioreview.com 5/5 overall score(perfect).
>
> I wonder how many of those 22 actually have heard (let alone own) a pair.

I wonder if there are as many as 22 pair existing.

Stephen

[Joseph Oberlander]

Schizoid Man wrote:
> "Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>>One other choice I forgot to mention.
>>
>>Ellis Audio. Best under $2000 speakers made.
>
>
> Isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement? What about B&W, Dynaudio,
> Triangle, Bose?...

Triangle and B&W - cost more than $1300 to get comparable sound.

Bose? Don't make me laugh.

> <snip>
>
>>22 ratings on audioreview.com 5/5 overall score(perfect).
>
>
> I wonder how many of those 22 actually have heard (let alone own) a pair.

All of them. They are made by one audio engineer who has a lot of
time and loves his hobby - who get this - wants to make no profit
on selling them. He's doing it for the love of the audio, hence
the low price.

No CEO. No shareholders. No huge building. No huge overhead or
shipping. Just a guy making great speakers at his cost.

People who have listened to them compare them to the Shamrock Audio
speakers. Shamrock audio, though, charges well over a thousand more
for nearly identical sound and components - because they are trying to
run a full-fledged business.

The components cost him $600 - roughly the price of the kit. Given a
typical speaker maker's markup to remain profitable, that means a
minimum of 300% over cost. $1800 right there before you make the
cabinet. The box/cabinet he makes is as good as any custom cabinetmaker
you'll find - well worth the extra money, IMO.

That's how it is better than the B&W and simmilar $1300 speakers - the
components alone cost close to $900 in raw materials. No speaker
manufacturer can stay in business with a 70% markup over their
cost as a final price after distribution. They don't even try.

[Schizoid Man]

"MiNe 109" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Schizoid Man" > wrote:
>
> > "Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > One other choice I forgot to mention.
> > >
> > > Ellis Audio. Best under $2000 speakers made.
> >
> > Isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement? What about B&W, Dynaudio,
> > Triangle, Bose?...
>
> One thing is not like the other...

Truer words were ne'er spoken. ;)

[Schizoid Man]

"Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
...
> Schizoid Man wrote:
> > "Joseph Oberlander" > wrote in message
> > ...
> >
> >>One other choice I forgot to mention.
> >>
> >>Ellis Audio. Best under $2000 speakers made.
> >
> >
> > Isn't that a bit of a sweeping statement? What about B&W, Dynaudio,
> > Triangle, Bose?...
>
> Triangle and B&W - cost more than $1300 to get comparable sound.
>
> Bose? Don't make me laugh.
>

Ummm... actually I was trying to make you laugh!!