DVD Emulates Audio CD?

[Moldy]

Is it possible to burn audio tracks to a DVD+/-R in the same way as to
a CD-R. ie not creating DVD-Audio just CD-Audio utilising the greater
capacity (and NOT the extra mhz etc) which could then be read by my
DVD player (Pioneer NS-DV55 if at all relevant) as a normal Audio CD
is?

I have searched and searched the net and usenet and can find no
answers.

TIA

Moldy

[Dave Platt]

In article >,
Moldy > wrote:
>Is it possible to burn audio tracks to a DVD+/-R in the same way as to
>a CD-R. ie not creating DVD-Audio just CD-Audio utilising the greater
>capacity (and NOT the extra mhz etc) which could then be read by my
>DVD player (Pioneer NS-DV55 if at all relevant) as a normal Audio CD
>is?
>
>I have searched and searched the net and usenet and can find no
>answers.

The basic answer is "No", to the best of my understanding. The cause
is the very different data structuring of the two media.

At a fairly low level, CDs are organized into small "frames" of
digital data, with synchronization and subcode and parity information
added to the 16-bit data samples. Higher-level structures (blocks and
tracks) are created by aggregating these frames together. Reliable
data storage (for e.g. CD-ROM style data) is "layered" on top of this
aggregation. There's a special "table of contents" area prior to the
beginning of the first track, where the track structure is described.

DVD media was designed from the get-to to behave a lot more like a
traditional data-storage medium. The data is organized on the disc
into 2048-byte blocks (rather than small audio frames), and there's no
special reserved "table of contents" area. Basically, a DVD disc just
looks like a computer filesystem (typically a UDF filesystem) which
stores data files. Audio data, etc. is stored in these files.

Due to the difference in data formatting, I don't think it'd ever be
possible to _exactly_ reproduce the structure of an audio CD on a DVD
disc. The closest you could come, probably, would be some sort of
filesystem with a bunch of .WAV files containing CD-quality/formatted
data.

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[Moldy]

On Wed, 06 Aug 2003 18:55:04 -0000, (Dave Platt)
wrote:

>In article >,
>Moldy > wrote:
>>Is it possible to burn audio tracks to a DVD+/-R in the same way as to
>>a CD-R. ie not creating DVD-Audio just CD-Audio utilising the greater
>>capacity (and NOT the extra mhz etc) which could then be read by my
>>DVD player (Pioneer NS-DV55 if at all relevant) as a normal Audio CD
>>is?
>>
>>I have searched and searched the net and usenet and can find no
>>answers.
>
>The basic answer is "No", to the best of my understanding. The cause
>is the very different data structuring of the two media.
>
>At a fairly low level, CDs are organized into small "frames" of
>digital data, with synchronization and subcode and parity information
>added to the 16-bit data samples. Higher-level structures (blocks and
>tracks) are created by aggregating these frames together. Reliable
>data storage (for e.g. CD-ROM style data) is "layered" on top of this
>aggregation. There's a special "table of contents" area prior to the
>beginning of the first track, where the track structure is described.
>
>DVD media was designed from the get-to to behave a lot more like a
>traditional data-storage medium. The data is organized on the disc
>into 2048-byte blocks (rather than small audio frames), and there's no
>special reserved "table of contents" area. Basically, a DVD disc just
>looks like a computer filesystem (typically a UDF filesystem) which
>stores data files. Audio data, etc. is stored in these files.
>
>Due to the difference in data formatting, I don't think it'd ever be
>possible to _exactly_ reproduce the structure of an audio CD on a DVD
>disc. The closest you could come, probably, would be some sort of
>filesystem with a bunch of .WAV files containing CD-quality/formatted
>data.

Dave,

This is the best info I have had so far. Thanks muchly. Looks like I
will have to save up for Sonic DVD-Audio Creator after all :-))

Are there any other DVD-A authoring software available on a cheaper
budget?

Moldy